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Whats the deal?

Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 10:46 am
by LowandLoud
Ok, so i finally located an EQ230 for my install. It was local, decently priced and best of all, in real nice shape. I just have one problem. The balanced input on this unit shows the round plug on the S/S, but has the square RJ style port. It doesnt appear to have been changed as the hole in the steel is square. My understanding was that the 232 had the RJ style input specifically for the ZPA's. I bought it anyways because i am fairly certain a simple plug change on the cable will allow this to work for me. Is this the case? There are also some of the peak indicator led's missing so it would appear someone has been inside.

This was a demo unit from my local PG dealer back in the day and still had their old label/price sticker on it which leads me to believe it has never been in a car.

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The led issue is not a big deal to me, but can anyone confirm that i can swap cable ends and be in business?

LL

Re: Whats the deal?

Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:05 am
by ttocs
could be a different front but as far as I know it doesn't matter what end is on there, you can change it.

Re: Whats the deal?

Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:24 am
by wooferdog
Pull the cover and take a look and see if those missing led's were ever in the board.It looks like a 232 with a 230 cover on it.

Re: Whats the deal?

Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 2:20 pm
by LowandLoud
But did a 230 ever come with that style input? I have never seen one. The hole is square and it hasnt been cut or filed out. There is still white paint on the edges. Doesnt appear to be blended in anywhere either.
Oh well, i have pretty much decided to build my own Lpl as well so i will just crimp on the appropriate end. Iirc, this is NOT an RJ45 end. What exactly is it?

LL

Re: Whats the deal?

Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 2:42 pm
by joerg
They did come like that to match the Zero Point 3 and 5 amps.

Re: Whats the deal?

Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 7:02 pm
by ttocs
I also vote to look at the board, see if it has a model number on it or if there was a spot for the leds.

Re: Whats the deal?

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:55 am
by wooferdog
Here's the pin out for the cable that might help you.
http://download.phoenixphorum.com/TechSupport/blc.pdf

Re: Whats the deal?

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 8:34 am
by LowandLoud
Thanks for the diagram, it will really help.

It does pose another small problem though. The cable i have with my Tba1 set is a BLC cable. This diagram says it will not work, i need an XBC cable to replace one end with a BLC. I have not checked fleebay yet but i am hoping they are commercially available.

After looking at stock photos, i am also sure this unit is a 232 with a 230 cover on it. The pics of 232's i found were also missing the peak led's. When i remove the cover, i expect to find an XBC balanced output port hidden behind the cover.

Thanks for the replies gents.

LL

Re: Whats the deal?

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:34 pm
by LowandLoud
So i took the cover off today and found what i expected to: the telling RJ45 balanced output hidden behind the cover and no green/yellow led's on the input side.

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Heres where it gets confusing.

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I dont know what to think anymore. Pretty sure no one would go as far as to forge the serial #'s. What for? The only explanation that makes sense now is..... special order. I assume thats what this unit is.

LL

Re: Whats the deal?

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:05 am
by mvpolo2k3
or someone took a nice top cover off a broken EQ and put it on that one that might have been damaged. I have an MS2125 that has second gen (with master/slave ports) on a gen3 PCB, so I have 2 empty holes on my endplate. Came that way when I bought it. I agree with wooferdog, use the diagram to make an adapter. the plug you have on the EQ looks like RJ45 standard network jack, and the one on the top plate looks like a PS/2 mouse or keyboard plug. Im sure you have some computer cables that you can try.

these are pinouts for a keyboard, but it gives you the plug layout
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Re: Whats the deal?

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:51 pm
by groundpounder
If you use a TBA-2 ballanced line driver, it should have the same plug as the EQ-230 you have. And the TBA-2 cable should plug strait into both your EQ and the TBA-2 line driver without any modifications to EQ or the cable.

Re: Whats the deal?

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:38 pm
by ttocs
I thought the TBA's had both as well depending on how old it was?

Re: Whats the deal?

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:07 am
by wooferdog
tbat-1 was only round,tbat-2 square type.

Re: Whats the deal?

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:11 pm
by LowandLoud
Exactly. I bought the TBA-1 set long before i even decided to add an EQ so i was just planning on using the RCA's.

Is the XBC cable the diagram refers to just a regular phone cord?

I suppose i could always resort to using the receiver and RCA's but i figured eliminating one connection (receiver) would be simpler.

Maybe keep my eye open for a TBA-2 set.

LL

Re: Whats the deal?

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:07 am
by wooferdog