Phoenix Gold Phorum

I am almost to the point I am ready to put the motor back in and I am now separating things to be either polished or powdered gloss black. The alt falls into one of these two(probably both, the body and back of the fan black and the front of the fan polished) but that could not even be considered if the decal could not be saved or else reprinted to match. Anyone have a place that could make one of these?

Nice Scott, I love seeing that alt.


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I never realized pg made HO Alternators. I did have some great solid copper power wire from them back in the day though.

I think i have one flying around in my basement. The first item i bought from Matt back in the day. Will post pictures tonight if i´m able to dig it out.

hardcoredore wrote:I never realized pg made HO Alternators. I did have some great solid copper power wire from them back in the day though.

well technically they didn't make them. They were made by wrangler for pg but they are a big or bad boy with an off board voltage regulator that I will be using a balmar marine regulator to maximize my agm batteries.

Are you building a mobile tig welding rig or what? [emoji6]

you think so looking at the outside wait till you see the guts..... After some thought I realized that they should be able to mask around the decal to powder it and then they can even clear over it to protect it. Its a stamped piece of foil and its mounted to the alt so it should not have any issues with heat, after a quick call to confirm it I decided to take it apart too get it ready. Here are the pics of the disassembly and the guts holy hell this thing is beefy inside. Found my camera


and now it gets interesting I need to look back as they did it all in just a flash, but imagine this turning and all lit up, isn't this the core of the deathstar that Luke Skywalker shot into to blow it up?

Flipped it over and pulled it apart and its all business. There is No voltage regulator inside....

it was at this point that I said oh hell I will take it into that small alt shop in the next town over to be sure its taken apart correctly(will be taking more pics).

after some thought I went ahead and took it apart the rest of the way myself.




I also started polishing the fan. I think the combination of the black body with a nicely polished fan will look nice.

I'v got one of those! 240 amp i believe... Didnt come with the Voltage Regulator though... Did some model s have it built it? Would it be useable without?

you can get off board regulators no problem. I figured out a way to mount the fan to my drill to make polishing it easier, wish they were all that easy... I just did a quick job last night(took 15 mins) and will probably do another run from 1k grit up to get it perfect but I think you get the idea on the fan. The edges of the fins will also be polished but the back side with the fins is going to be powdered along with the alt body. With the vortech kit now this sits right on top next too the supercharger and the electric water pump that are also polished, just in front of the intake(also polished) so idunno I hope the mix of powder on it will help to set it all off.


I have some old school PG decals and I am half tempted to put one on the fan facing forward now or maybe etch the PG logo on the polished surface. Any opinions?

The heat from the engine bay would tare any decal apart. Etch would be the best option, use the PG squiggly logo.


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I didn't think this had a regulator built into it either until I got it apart.

So mine could have an internal regulator or were they all external? info on these is scarce!

your guess is as good as mine like you said I can't find any info on them. Your the only other person I know that says he has one. Now I could see the aluminum plate with the diodes in it through the back so you might be able too as well.

I went to get the bearings pressed out today and hit up my local alt shop to ask. That isn't the regulator its the rectifier and yes we do still need off board regulation. Thankfully since I have one waiting and already wired up...

Dropped all my stuff off at the powder coater today and when he looked at the decal he said it was not going to make it through the heat. We pulled it off as best we can but I will be in need to make another if anyone knows of a sign/decal place. I am going to try some local placed but I find for almost anything different like this that this crappy little town doesn't have much of a selection.

found one place that says that they could do it but it has an $87 minimum.... I know I was gonna have my ass taxed for a custom one-off sticker but that is a bit more then I was considering. Picked it up from powder and I almost have it all back together now. Looks killer now just need this last detail...

I will be powdering the pulley in the next round of powder as well but with this sucker up on top of the motor between the polished supercharger and the polished water pump should look perty. Now I just need to recreate that decal.....

Looks good. Your attention to detail on your car is top notch. You have way more patience than I do.

I think I found someone that can make the decal but does anyone here have that PG logo already in a jpg or some other form that would make it easy to transfer?

again is there anyone that has that logo in vector form or even in a good jpg? I had a link to it before and of course now I can't find it.

This might sound odd but have you tried to contact wrangler to see if they still have the vector file?

did they have vector files back in the 90s when this was made? There are other logos that I would probably use before trying to cold-call wranglers 800 number to see if they even remember pg let alone had the file. But if I could I would like to use the same logo. I am hoping to have a polished aluminum badge made with the same serial number and everything on it either in black or etched onto it to make a frosted effect. I think it would look really nice and draw some attention since the alt is up high and in front of the motor. Hell I had to get a different hood because of it...

What's the lenth x width of the plaque. I might be able to make something happen.

4" x 1.25"

My brother can make a vector file of the whole thing fairly easily if I can find a logo file either in jpg or vector for him to use.