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Re: Look what i got today ZPA

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what else can I say I am a grumpy asshole most of the time.
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Re: Look what i got today ZPA

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Thank you for the link i think it will be expensive to ship it to Norway so i will look here first, you are Lucky in the US you got soo many stores with big selection and good prices i think that item would cost 3-4 times more in Norway.

The ZPA cant have been used much its no dirt inside but there is some small rust on the middle heat Shield, the ouside had something sticky on it but it is no rust or paint gone.
The caps are HFZ 61FL i tryed with paper but i do not get any wet on it but i has to be leaking, i almost dont want to remove them to keep it 100% original but i know the leaking can damage the Board.
On one off the heatshields there is a screw missing but it looks like it never been a screw in the hole the paint is spotless and all the other holes has scuffs after the screws.

More Pictures off inside, i have not cleaned it yet i spilled out my isopropanol and i only got ethanol home can i use clean ethanol to clean the board?
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zpa0.5(V210245)
zpa0.3(00618)
zx600ti x2
600titanium
zx400ti
sd500.4
XSC5 x2
pld1
sdt-ti
tba
bass cube
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Re: Look what i got today ZPA

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not sure I would recommend anything more then iso.
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Re: Look what i got today ZPA

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ttocs wrote:not sure I would recommend anything more then iso.

Ill just throw it in my dishwasher then lol :doh: , ill buy some isoprop tommorow
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Re: Look what i got today ZPA

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Wow that board is super clean. Change those caps for sure. That series leaks, and chances are you will find leaks once you remove the caps.

For the power terminals you'll want to use Kapton tape to replace the broken "gold" tape. The purpose is to keep wire strands or the entire wire from goi through into the amp. The v2 had a solid block rather than using that tape...not sure what they were thinking there. If you can find a good machine shop they can probably make you a solid block, but they'd have to drill and tap for the screw hold and for the set screw, plus drill for the wire. It might not cost too much but I found that the Kapton tape works well too.

Oh, and that switch at the end of the blue wire can be eliminated by shorting it out. I just tape a piece of wire and connect the two terminals that the wires run to. It purpose was that if you remove the plexi then the amp shuts off. It's kind of pointless unless you want to keep the amp all original (I think almost everyone that works on these amps eliminates that).
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Re: Look what i got today ZPA

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Damn im glad i pulled the off under one off the caps there was small pieces off wire stuck between + & -, they all were leaking from the - on the caps not one off the + were leaking.
Dont even want to think on what would happen if someone had hooked it up without removing the caps.
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Re: Look what i got today ZPA

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Good thing you are replacing them. It looks like at leak that cap leaked.

Panasonic makes a series of caps that look very much like the originals but they have much more capacitance. It's is the Panasonic FC series 8200uf, 16v.

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Re: Look what i got today ZPA

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vwdude wrote:Good thing you are replacing them. It looks like at leak that cap leaked.

Panasonic makes a series of caps that look very much like the originals but they have much more capacitance. It's is the Panasonic FC series 8200uf, 16v.

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I got some nichicon 5600uf/16v but they are black with silver stripe it would be much better with the right colour but it depends on what it would cost to get them shipped to Norway, i just orderd from digikey together with another Norweigan member so i just orderd.
But i will see what i do i got alot of time to finish this one, the cicuit board is a piece of art on these amps.
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Re: Look what i got today ZPA

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Did you get the ones I shipped you? They are 8200uf 16v FC's, need more let me know and I would be happy to get some for you (and ship them with your next order).
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trickyricky wrote:Did you get the ones I shipped you? They are 8200uf 16v FC's, need more let me know and I would be happy to get some for you (and ship them with your next order).

That sounds great, the package from you is getting here tommorow and i cant wait to open it lol.
Ill send you a mail tommorow because im off to bed now, i think i will need 6 more if you can get them, there were no problem in custom with the one im getting tommorow it went in and out and they only used an hour.
Thank you for the help i appreciate it :-)
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600titanium
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tba
bass cube
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Re: Look what i got today ZPA

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the stuff you guys go through for customs shipments it just nuts to us yanks. Imagine how nice it would be to have it show up at the door, no extra money needed for the gov to release it?
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ttocs wrote:the stuff you guys go through for customs shipments it just nuts to us yanks. Imagine how nice it would be to have it show up at the door, no extra money needed for the gov to release it?
With alibaba taking over am pretty sure that will be happening in the near future.
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ttocs wrote:the stuff you guys go through for customs shipments it just nuts to us yanks. Imagine how nice it would be to have it show up at the door, no extra money needed for the gov to release it?
My reason for doing it is that i pay over 40% off my pay check in tax and we got MVA 25% on everything we buy both across the border and inside the country on top off the VAT they have surcharges on many items, its the goverment greedy way in this country making me want to cheat the system at every turn.
We got soo much oil but still we pay 2$ per liter 70% off the price goes to goverment, on top off the fuel price we got tollboth charging me 2$ every time i drive outside my town and they have 5 off them charging both ways on a 31miles stretch of road.
I should not complain about it we got high hourly wage and we are one off the best countrys to live in.

We do not pay customs when item is under 50$ but the shipping price is included in the 50$, i love when it comes at the door without the extra paying to get it out.
zpa0.5(V210245)
zpa0.3(00618)
zx600ti x2
600titanium
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XSC5 x2
pld1
sdt-ti
tba
bass cube
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Wow! That is possibly even worse than here in Finland. But here the wages are not high, if you happen to have a job.
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Re: Look what i got today ZPA

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Alfaholic wrote:
ttocs wrote:the stuff you guys go through for customs shipments it just nuts to us yanks. Imagine how nice it would be to have it show up at the door, no extra money needed for the gov to release it?
My reason for doing it is that i pay over 40% off my pay check in tax and we got MVA 25% on everything we buy both across the border and inside the country on top off the VAT they have surcharges on many items, its the goverment greedy way in this country making me want to cheat the system at every turn.
We got soo much oil but still we pay 2$ per liter 70% off the price goes to goverment, on top off the fuel price we got tollboth charging me 2$ every time i drive outside my town and they have 5 off them charging both ways on a 31miles stretch of road.
I should not complain about it we got high hourly wage and we are one off the best countrys to live in.

We do not pay customs when item is under 50$ but the shipping price is included in the 50$, i love when it comes at the door without the extra paying to get it out.

FYI TLA's are only really useful when the TPC to you are talking too knows what they mean or they will be WTF?! Make sense?
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Re: Look what i got today ZPA

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what are the prices of caps you buying? I will change caps also to my 3 amps, but i was thinking of Mundorf or Audyn high grade to use, i am thinking not to sell thous amps ever ;)
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No need to spend on audio grade caps for the power supply caps. I upgraded the signal caps on one of my zpa0.3 to ELNA caps but I am yet to test it out.
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Re: Look what i got today ZPA

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Renovatio wrote:what are the prices of caps you buying? I will change caps also to my 3 amps, but i was thinking of Mundorf or Audyn high grade to use, i am thinking not to sell thous amps ever ;)
Hi ,the caps are 2-4$ each but with shipping and custom fee etc it all depends on how many and where you order them from.
I got help from trickyricky because i already bought some amps from him he was kind and helped me out, the other order i have made on caps i bought together with another member and he did all the work so im not sure.
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Re: Look what i got today ZPA

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ok, one more question, normally there are 2200uF 16 vdc caps, but its not a problem if thous would be changed to 8200uF 25 vdc? talking about power supply caps
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Renovatio wrote:ok, one more question, normally there are 2200uF 16 vdc caps, but its not a problem if thous would be changed to 8200uF 25 vdc? talking about power supply caps
You can change the uf but not the voltage, i got some how many do you need? i got 5600uf/16V
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Re: Look what i got today ZPA

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You can go to 25v to be extra safe but the original caps leaked not due to voltage rating but due to a "factory defect". You will not find a 8200uf 25v capacitor that measures 16-18mm diameter and 32mm height/length. It will be around 4700uf or 5600uf but not 8200uf.

I've seen some amps that even use 50v on the B+ filter side, only reason was to make assembly go much faster by using the same caps that are used in the rail filtering on the B+.
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trickyricky wrote:You can go to 25v to be extra safe but the original caps leaked not due to voltage rating but due to a "factory defect". You will not find a 8200uf 25v capacitor that measures 16-18mm diameter and 32mm height/length. It will be around 4700uf or 5600uf but not 8200uf.

I've seen some amps that even use 50v on the B+ filter side, only reason was to make assembly go much faster by using the same caps that are used in the rail filtering on the B+.
If you can get them for him you could ship them in my package i could send it to him when i got them but its up to you and you got to check if shipping would cost the same, just an idea but i could pay you the Money for them and he could pay me when he gets them.
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zpa0.3(00618)
zx600ti x2
600titanium
zx400ti
sd500.4
XSC5 x2
pld1
sdt-ti
tba
bass cube
tld66
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Re: Look what i got today ZPA

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Doesn't matter to me, I would actually prefer to ship them to you. Just let me know I have an order to pick up from Mousers in an hour or two.
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trickyricky wrote:Doesn't matter to me, I would actually prefer to ship them to you. Just let me know I have an order to pick up from Mousers in an hour or two.
Sorry did not see Your reply before now i was picking up the package from you and everything looks great, i will send renovatio an email now and see if he responds fast
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zpa0.3(00618)
zx600ti x2
600titanium
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XSC5 x2
pld1
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tba
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Re: Look what i got today ZPA

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Well the post Office had alot for me today, here is some of it but i also got a 600titanium and zx600ti they are in my storage room and i will get them later i got enough removing the cap feet on the zpa.
I also got the Audio Control DQX with the ddc remote the other day, the dqx need a new chip but its on the way from Audio Control a guy name Dan helped me and he made my day since i got the chip for free and its getting shipped today.
Now im only waiting on two xsc5 capacitor then i just has to figure out where i can fit all these goodies.
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zpa0.5(V210245)
zpa0.3(00618)
zx600ti x2
600titanium
zx400ti
sd500.4
XSC5 x2
pld1
sdt-ti
tba
bass cube
tld66
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