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Old pg boards

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 4:53 pm
by Treesive
Were the old pg boards such as the ms and m series built in house or did someone like zed oem them to pg? I was just asked this question and couldn't give a certain answer so figured I would turn to here

Re: Old pg boards

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 5:16 pm
by Weaklink
I remember being at the factory in portland and seeing the boards going across a solder vat putting the through hole parts on. Can't remember if the boards were cut in house though.

Re: Old pg boards

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 5:36 pm
by knightrider358
From a friend who worked for PG.

Im sure if he sees this he will chime in. Incase not......

Done 3rd party. Was done down in the Rogue River area of Oregon for about 3 yrs. And then in China . We found a company tgatvcould fo 2 oz copper/gold plated boards as good or better than USA. For a lot less. Heatsinks were Kaiser aluminum in Los Angeles. All years. And all sheet metal silkscreening and powder coating was in house. As was insertion of parts.

Re: Old pg boards

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 5:37 pm
by knightrider358
As well as CES booths. All our workbenches and jigs. Built in house. Woodshop was 40X 50 ft . 20 ft ceilings. Vehicle test area was 60 X 40

Re: Old pg boards

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 5:13 pm
by Treesive
Wow really suprised by the China bit. I didn't think they had any of that kind of work back in the early 90's

Re: Old pg boards

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 6:13 am
by LowandLoud
I have 4 XS 8" subs and every one of them has a "made in China" sticker on the back. It surprised me too.

LL

Re: Old pg boards

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 7:35 am
by Treesive
LowandLoud wrote:I have 4 XS 8" subs and every one of them has a "made in China" sticker on the back. It surprised me too.

LL
Subs don't suprise me as much as I don't look at PG as a subwoofer company near as much as I do an amp company. That isn't to say the they haven't made good subs but I always believed those to be an oem type operation

Re: Old pg boards

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:12 am
by valeks1
Before 2006 all boards was build in house. Tantrum was assemble in house but board was stuffed by subcontractor in New Mexico. QX, XENON amplifiers was build in Taiwan and Octane-R in China.

Re: Old pg boards

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:35 am
by trickyricky
You can add the tantrums to the "Taiwan" list, I found "Made in Taiwan" stamped underneath the pcb.

I couldn't imagine China making those gold plated board for PG (Sapphire,M,MS,MPS,ZX,ZPA)...they could today with the proper QC.

Re: Old pg boards

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:28 pm
by vwdude
I was going to say, I thought the titaniums were the last amps to be made in the USA. You can see a change in the design from titanium to tantrum. To me at least they seemed less American

Re: Old pg boards

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 10:51 am
by LowandLoud
I saw a "Made in Hong Kong" sticker today (online) stuck to a supposedly unopened MPS board. I cannot comment on the authenticity.

LL

Re: Old pg boards

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 2:27 pm
by El-Akeem
valeks1 wrote:XENON amplifiers was build in Taiwan
I always thought they were made in Korea...?

Re: Old pg boards

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 9:47 pm
by valeks1
Yes XENON amplifiers was build in Korea. Sorry

Tantrum PCB was mage overseas