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CYCLONE REPAIR
Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 2:06 pm
by tristan20
Hey Guys anyone here can help me out?
I got a cyclone, but it was cracked in shipping as seen in the pics below.
Does PG repair them? Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance
Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 2:14 pm
by bdubs767
nope and someone bought all the plexis too....im sure you can find somethign of the same size though at a constrction shop or site that is more reliable then that plexi that breaks when you touch it.
Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 2:16 pm
by fuzzysnuggleduck
Booo, that sucks.
I suppose the one obvious and crappiest answer is get someone to fab a custom plexi cylinder for you...
From a quick search online:
* Acrylic Solvent: Done properly, an acrylic solvent can be used to bond two pieces of acrylic such that the resulting piece is essentially a single seamless piece of acrylic. However, it is difficult to properly apply solvent to repair a crack as opposed to joining separate pieces of acrylic. In addition, acrylic solvent is really nasty stuff. An easy to find brand of appropriate acrylic solvent is IPS Weld-on #3 or #4.
* Epoxy: There are many kinds of epoxy and many do not adhere well to acrylic, but epoxy that bonds acrylic is available in most hardware stores. For best results apply the epoxy to both sides of the crack. Unfortunately epoxies that form the strongest bonds with acrylic are not transparent, they're generally amber or off-white in color. Easy to find brands are Devcon Plastic Welder or Loctite Plastic Epoxy.
* Cyanoacrylate: Colloquially called "super glue" or "instant adhesive", an appropriate cyanoacrylate will form a decent acrylic bond and most cyanoacrylate adhesives are transparent. I'd probably apply it from above, allowing capillary action to draw it down into the crack. For acrylic, I'd recommend Loctite 401 Prism Instant Adhesive.
From:
http://ask.metafilter.com/45769/plexiglass-repair
Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 4:01 pm
by dgoodhue
Damn that sucks. I think my Cyclone got the last Zoll PG had. Mine was a brand new Cyclone, that got in broken in shiping as well. For those of you in buying a Cyclone in the future I would high recommend you menton the seller to package the Cyclone very well, for thsi exact reason. It doesn't seem like they would be easy to break but I heard of stories item getting dropped 8-10' in the distributuion centers.
Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 4:07 pm
by HoseHead
Ask Nick-Caper.
HO HO Ha Ha He He........I'm killing myself again.
HH
Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 4:11 pm
by Bfowler
HoseHead wrote:Ask Nick-Caper.
HO HO Ha Ha He He........I'm killing myself again.
HH
you are terrible Bruce.
terribly funny that is.
lol
Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 5:26 pm
by twisted
there is a plexi/lexan specialty manufacturer here in town that told me they could make anything out of lexan or plexi......
they are going to build me a plexi cover for the outlaw with a raise spot in the middle to mount a 3" fan...all seamless and one peice..they said all they need is the cover to the amp and the fan i wanted to use.
maybe there is something like that close to you tristan
Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 5:44 pm
by tristan20
Wow nice, I am in NYC all I have around me are roads, trains and buildings
Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 7:58 pm
by 1moreamp
Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 8:28 pm
by Wakeup
how much twisted ?? for the amp cover? What did they charge you or want to charge? Just getting an idea. Maybe you can also find out if they ship?
Tristan20, I'm in search of a plexi as well. My crack is no where near as bad. Sorry that happened to you. Sux man. If you find anything out let me know...I'll keep my eyes open too.
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:32 am
by jeffg
There are several custom plastic dealers around here that could probably pull that off. Any chance of some measurements? Inside diameter and wall thickness?
there are probably better materials to replace that with than Plexi, actually.
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:35 pm
by theburb
you can use that plastic weld liquid to fix that right up....any shop that sells plastic,lexan,plexi, in your area will carry it its only like 3 dollars...that shit is instant and it is safe to the touch like water....i hope that helps
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:39 pm
by Bfowler
theburb wrote:you can use that plastic weld liquid to fix that right up....any shop that sells plastic,lexan,plexi, in your area will carry it its only like 3 dollars...that shit is instant and it is safe to the touch like water....i hope that helps
i don't know if this is true, but it seems like any tiny imperfection in the plexi could screw up the seals on it though
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:43 pm
by theburb
btw, i know few places that you can buy that tubing from but they only sell 6ft sections....so maybe you could turn this into a biz or something....poof
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:49 pm
by tristan20
I wonder how those big white PVC pipes sound hehe
I will try the plastic weld, thanks for the advice.
There is a plastic shop down on canal street, I will have them take a look.
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:54 pm
by jeffg
I would be very wary of any attempt to glue or melt this crack back together. Glue or welding would change the characteristic of the plastic in the area around the repair. This could color the sound of the speaker, or probably just end up breaking again after trying to vibrate at 30Hz for a while. The correct way to do this is to replace the plastic with new, intact plastic, or another material, though that will probably change the way the speaker sounds as well.
J
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:56 pm
by tristan20
Not gonna touch it
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:23 pm
by Wakeup
ya I agree using something like that could change the sound....if the wind runs thru, and the plexi is not smooth, you might get whistling sounds or maybe even hissing or however the air might travel around the new grooves/cracks/holes of the plexi after the change.
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:24 pm
by Wakeup
thats why i havent done my cyclone up like that. I mean you could probably do all the work on the OUTSIDE of the plexi...but the inside would still have cracks/crevices.....and would just sound like crap. because of that...I would imagine.
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:01 pm
by theburb
i take it none of yall have ever bonded plastics before without glue....this stuff is just like water and it leaves no raised edge, it doesnt look like u tried to patch it at home its just what you use to bond plastics...its the industry standard for small plexi there is no other way besides cold welding and he doesnt want to do that...so this will fix him right up since all he has is a split, when he is done there will be no seam or weakend points on the parts that are joined...its just goes into the crack and chemically bonds the parts instantainiously....
its just a bottle with a needle sticking out of the top so that right there alone should tell u that it only takes a little to get the job done..
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 7:38 am
by Bfowler
cool^
well you might as well try it. if you are just gonna replace the whole plexi peice, you got nothing to loose
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:57 am
by Wakeup
ya true....worth a shot.
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:29 am
by dedlyjedly
definitely worth a shot. If the crack were in a spot where the vanes were swinging back and forth I'd be more concerned, but fortunately that doesn't appear to be the case.
