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Anyone tried the Ryval series subs?

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:54 am
by gln305
I just ordered a pair for my wife's car. I am planning on going ported with them...1.5@30Hz or so. I have an Octane R8.0:4 to power the subs (each pair of channels bridge to an SVC 10 and another R8.0:4 to power the mids/highs (JL Audio ZR series). If anyone has used these, lemme know what kinda results you've experienced. I wanted RSD's, but we are on an air base in Germany and Parts Express carries Octane amps and the Ryval subs, so I went with them.

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:18 am
by Bfowler
i have heard they are quite musical are ridiculously efficient, but no experience with them. i should order one for kicks.

you might be the first her to take the plunge!

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 1:47 pm
by rolandk
The Ryvals are tough little subs. We beat on them pretty hard during testing (lab-type stuff and in vehicle) and they held up great.

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 2:11 pm
by gln305
I'm quite excited about putting them in my wife's new Audi, that car really deserves some class and Phoenix Gold is delivering it at a reasonable price these days. So many people have reviewed the RSD subs and they really like them even compared to subs that cost over 4 x as much. My guess is that the Ryvals will follow that heritage and do well for me. I haven't owned anything made by PG in a while...a long while (M50, M25 Era) but I have heard some recent stuff and loved it. I just wish I would have though about the Roadster 66 before I bought the pair of Octane amps.

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 2:44 pm
by OldSchoolFool
I have tried Xmax10, Tantrum10, RSd10, RSd12, RSdC12, and Ryval 10 and 12.

By far I like the Ryval subs the best. I am not an SPL guy. I listen mostly to rock.

Right now I am running 2x Ryval 10's wired to 2 ohms on a Ryval V8001, sealed box. Sounds kick ass.

They have the dual venting on the cone and VC. Don't let the price fool you, this is a versitile little speaker with a whole lot of heart and the same PG pride you crave, engineered in- top to bottom, here in USA.

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 2:46 pm
by Mackenzie
OldSchoolFool wrote:I have tried Xmax10, Tantrum10, RSd10, RSd12, RSdC12, and Ryval 10 and 12.

By far I like the Ryval subs the best. I am not an SPL guy. I listen mostly to rock.

Right now I am running 2x Ryval 10's wired to 2 ohms on a Ryval V8001, sealed box. Sounds kick ass.

They have the dual venting on the cone and VC. Don't let the price fool you, this is a versitile little speaker with a whole lot of heart and the same PG pride you crave, engineered in- top to bottom, here in USA.
huh.. I am having a hard time believing this..

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:01 pm
by Bfowler
what kind of music do you listen to OSF? i dont see how its scientificly possable for them to keep up with the rsd's in the low end.

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:14 pm
by gln305
I was modeling them in Win ISD and in a ported application they seem to have ample low end. I was modeling a 1.5 cubic foot box net with a tuning of 30Hz and at 30 the graph showed -3.74 db....not too shabby!

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:27 pm
by OldSchoolFool
Keep up with or sound better to my ears? I think it has to do with their sensitivity. Different animals, I like the Ryvals, my opinion only.

Yes RSd and RSdC are monsters. I just don't listen to music where their qualities shine. I have never run dual RSds, maybe that would change my mind.

I listen to some rock, some metal, mostly punk rock (nothing newer than 1986) (nothing played on the radio). Lot's of kick bass and bass guitar.

I use a few techno tracks with extremely dynamic bass lines to zero my system in. I put on radio rap stuff when I want to push the speakers beyond listenable limits, purely stress testing the poor things.

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:36 pm
by bdubs767
my bet is that you prefer the paper pulp cone vs the poly....With subs over time I've found paper to be a ti bit quicker w/o eqing on average, even though I found the RSd to be little bit quicker then the IDMAX. Nothing compares to metal though straight out of the box.


Im curious though how much EQ ability do you have? Did you EQ the system with every sub change?

Can we have some t/s parameter?

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:54 pm
by bdubs767
OldSchoolFool wrote:here in USA.
Should have kept it made in the Good OL' USA too, but cant blame that on you, only the big guys.

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:53 am
by Bfowler
^then the ryvals would be $100 a pop!

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 8:10 am
by bdubs767
Bfowler wrote:^then the ryvals would be $100 a pop!
What would you prefer fowler? A ms2250ta or RSd500.4 to run your ti elite 6ms?

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 8:33 am
by Bfowler
thats totally a strawman argument. of course a ms, but that has nothing to do with location of manufacture.

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 9:09 am
by stipud
bdubs767 wrote:
Bfowler wrote:^then the ryvals would be $100 a pop!
What would you prefer fowler? A ms2250ta or RSd500.4 to run your ti elite 6ms?
I'd take a Xenon 200.2 :roll:

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 4:19 pm
by Stewart
Mackenzie wrote:
OldSchoolFool wrote:I have tried Xmax10, Tantrum10, RSd10, RSd12, RSdC12, and Ryval 10 and 12.

By far I like the Ryval subs the best. I am not an SPL guy. I listen mostly to rock.

Right now I am running 2x Ryval 10's wired to 2 ohms on a Ryval V8001, sealed box. Sounds kick ass.

They have the dual venting on the cone and VC. Don't let the price fool you, this is a versitile little speaker with a whole lot of heart and the same PG pride you crave, engineered in- top to bottom, here in USA.
huh.. I am having a hard time believing this..
Mackenzie,
Believe it. Oldschoolfool tests lots of the new stuff out.
He and a couple of other guys around here are very honest in their evaluations of product. Obviously, everyone has different boxes with different speakers, and different music they like to listen to... so opinions vary.

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 8:21 pm
by VW337
If anybody needs an additional shot--

The Ryval subs are VERY musical. They have a very clean tight response, as mentioned they don't play the low notes that you would get with the RSd/Xenon/Ti Elite........but they would be my first option if I were looking for pure musicality out of the box with a lighter amp.


However for you SPL'ers, with a group of the 10's in a ported enclosure I did get some ridiculous output specs........with very little input power.

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:53 am
by gln305
Does anyone have enclosure recommendations or T/S parameters for the Ryval SVC 10's? I wanna pre-plan an enclosure . Thanks in advance!

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:53 pm
by harobkr90
bump- any enclosure recommendations?