another find
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:23 am
Not PG but check these out
Phoenix Gold Phorum
Celebrating the Phoenix Gold legacy, and oldschool car audio!
https://www.phoenixphorum.com/
another find
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:26 am
That's beautiful! What the hell am I looking at?
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:28 am
Russian made ppi tube amps . No heatsinks.mr tibbs wrote:That's beautiful! What the hell am I looking at?
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:39 am
they could be soviet missle guidance systems... 
or just amps....but still
or just amps....but still
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:55 am
wow nice butler made ppi's, good luck finding heatsinks. Check robotunderground. I think he has a few
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:06 am
lolo. I already have to decide which amps I have to get rid of. Ive bought 4 in the last 2 days to get 2 for a total of five ( theres one in my car already.)tristan20 wrote:wow nice butler made ppi's, good luck finding heatsinks. Check robotunderground. I think he has a few
Maybe if the guy has em next week Ill grab one.
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:00 am
If I thought amp sonic in a car amke a difference @ 30 MPH id so buy those
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:14 pm
Ahh Butler PPI's My good friend Jon used to work for them. I have had the pleasure of working on a few of these. Very nice sounding amps, but very hot from the tubes of course. You will need flat internal finned heatsinks with a bonnet type cover with vent holes to get these working reliably.
LMK if I can be of informative value to you on these glowing wonders of yesteryear......C
Oh how I can tell they are Butler PPI is because PPI used Sanken outputs like the Xenons in these, and Butler used Mosfets that are no longer made. In fact a Xenon sink plate would work nicely if the devices could be made to fit the proper mounting places...
LMK if I can be of informative value to you on these glowing wonders of yesteryear......C
Oh how I can tell they are Butler PPI is because PPI used Sanken outputs like the Xenons in these, and Butler used Mosfets that are no longer made. In fact a Xenon sink plate would work nicely if the devices could be made to fit the proper mounting places...
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:48 pm
Soviets used tubes right up until the curtain fell. Tube fitted hardware will not fail in a nuclear environment. Solid state devices (silicon) becomes inept if radiated. All early MiGs had tube equipment for this very reason, hence their weight and limited performance as compared to an equivalent Western fighter.
Those examples up there are too kewl.
Those examples up there are too kewl.
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:43 pm
Think theyre worth 200 a piece?
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:43 pm
nutxo wrote:Think theyre worth 200 a piece?
If I owned a failed Butler PPi amp YES I would pay that price to put them in my cases, But without cases, I just don't know, the cost to build them up custom would place them in the range of NIB cost for these older beauties..