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RX8 system install...help please.
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:43 am
by Ahsmo
A kid at my school wants me to help him install a system in his RX8.
I also need to help pick out the equipment.
I would like to use all PG components for this install because...I am a brand whore. Granted, I am open to suggestions. Thus far I have come up with this but I am unsure if the amp I have picked has enough balls to run a sub well.
Price objective: $1000
Car: RX8
Music preference: Rock for normal listening, bullshit squarewave rap for showing off to stupid kids.
Going to use the stock deck so I need a hi to low converter. Is it worth getting a fancy JL audio converter?
Amp: RSD 500.4
Front Components: RSD6.5
Rear fill: nope
Sub: 10inch RSDc
4 guage amp kit
Anyone think I am steering him wrong here? I am not confident that the RSDc will be getting enough power.
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:59 am
by stipud
I run my RSDc 12 on the rear of my Ti500.4, and it whoops my ass. A 10 should be fantastic

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:12 am
by dwnrodeo
Just use a PG SLD44 for your converter.
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:14 am
by stipud
After checking through google a bit, it looks like the stock non-bose headunit outputs a flat signal, so an SLD44 would work for sure.
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:17 am
by Bfowler
I would go with the
rsd600.1
rsd250.2
rsd65cs
rsdc10d4
and buy some install gear from knu
http://www.knukonceptz.com/productDetai ... ID=BT-104P
http://www.knukonceptz.com/productDetai ... ID=KFX-AK4
http://www.knukonceptz.com/productDetai ... ID=KOL-AK8
(or just bulk order the 4awg, and dist blocks etc)
that should put him right around 800-850
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:26 am
by Ahsmo
man... you guys are good.
fowler. I would prefer those amps to a single 4 channel but for simplicity's sake the 4 channel may more than meet this guy's needs.
...He thinks his 5.1 logitec system sounds better than my 2.0 studio monitor setup
If I can convince him to spend a little extra I may go with 2 RSDc 10s and a 600.1
I am going to use one of these boxes:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mazda-RX ... QQtcZphoto
I have no tools to use for this install so building my own box or glassing something is out of the question. Besides, I doublt I could build a box for much cheaper or better.
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:08 am
by Bfowler
that IS a sweet box. two rsdcs for sure. or even normal rsd's if the budget wont allow
running two power wires isnt two much harder then 1

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:16 am
by gkitching
I've talked to a few installers who complain that the 'Cleansweep' has it's issues. Noise problems as well as delays in processing which makes it's own wierdness.
If the PLD44 had a 3rd set of outputs for subwoofer with a remote volume control it would be the shiznit!
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:20 am
by stipud
Box might be way too big for a single RSDc 10... they need only ~0.6cuft each.
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:21 am
by stipud
gkitching wrote:If the PLD44 had a 3rd set of outputs for subwoofer with a remote volume control it would be the shiznit!
Dude! Good idea.
I do prefer though to have my subwoofer volume limited at the amp, instead of at the processor. That way I get an 8 volt signal going to the back, which is then internally limited in the amplifier, instead of sending a lower voltage signal instead. Fortunately most of our amps have that taken care of already, but I can see how that would be very handy in many other cases

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:27 am
by gkitching
Good point. Not all amps are created equal as you mention. Having that ability would make it universal.
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:56 am
by Ahsmo
stipud wrote:Box might be way too big for a single RSDc 10... they need only ~0.6cuft each.
I think I could ask them to parition the box off.
Would .75 cuft be too much? I figured it would be negligible.
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:01 pm
by stipud
If that's before woofer displacement, then you're fine.
Heck with all that extra airspace you could throw a sizable port in it. No sense letting half of that room go to waste

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:17 pm
by Ahsmo
stipud wrote:If that's before woofer displacement, then you're fine.
Heck with all that extra airspace you could throw a sizable port in it. No sense letting half of that room go to waste

Well I got the guy to go with two subs. He wants to order soon and install within 3 weeks.
Thanks guys.
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:23 pm
by VW337
if you use the SLD44 I can walk you through how to mod it and use it as an AUX in (another idea that PG wouldn't hear).
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:30 pm
by gkitching
I'd like to know that!^^^
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:39 pm
by HoseHead
The custom built box can't be efficiently built for that price.
As far a box volume goes, couldn't you just add properly secured wood strips inside to bring it down to a "better" level? Comments?
HH
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:38 pm
by Ahsmo
VW337 wrote:if you use the SLD44 I can walk you through how to mod it and use it as an AUX in (another idea that PG wouldn't hear).
That would be useful. Thank you!
HoseHead wrote:The custom built box can't be efficiently built for that price.
As far a box volume goes, couldn't you just add properly secured wood strips inside to bring it down to a "better" level? Comments?
HH
With the driver in place, it should be close to .6
The boxes are good quality, I have seen boxes he has built for the 350z. I have gotten into arguements with the guy over a few things in the past but his boxes are nice.
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 6:18 pm
by mr tibbs
VW337 wrote:if you use the SLD44 I can walk you through how to mod it and use it as an AUX in (another idea that PG wouldn't hear).
And you couldn't mention this before because.....??? I also would like to hear this, although it would probably be over my head. You have seen me in action with my compy!!
