Phoenix Gold Phorum

so yeah...the rear speakers in my sonata are in the doors...it think this kinda sucks. ALL of the highs and most of the mids are acoustically cock-blocked by the front seats . I know that most of the driver and frnt passengers sound comes from the frnt spkrs, but having virtually nothing from the rear aint good...no "surround" affect...what would you guys say is the simplest way to get speakers in a good imaging position back there?...or is it even worth it for the benefit?

You should have got a Tiburon. lol.

I just removed a very expensive and highly praised and rated rear stage from my car, and I didnt even know it was gone in honesty.

really..well that's comforting news just in case I can't relocate those things...i'm not willing to just stick a couple of 6x9 boxes on my rear dash, it's gotta look good and clean back there......Tiburon huh, my cousin luvd his...i just sold my mustang to buy the sonata though...trying to get practical ....oh yeah, why'd u take yer rear stage out anyway?

Who needs rear fill?...................

FILL the trunk with woofers......................

Rear speakers don't give you 'imaging'. They should be used for 'fill' or 'ambience' if used at all. I know it's hard to overcome something you've been used to in the car. But unless you have a true surround sound system with video then just eliminate them and spend that money on something else.

They don't give you actual imaging but I like the spacial sound of being surrounded by the mids & highs.

That's reminds me though; if I were to disconnect my rears, would the fronts receive more power or would I just be using only half the HU's power?

Your front speakers will still be getting the same amount of power with the rears hooked up or not.

Might as well leave em hooked up I guess.

Why would anybody Not want the rear speakers unless they were compromising something else?

They compromise your front stage. But to be honest, if all you are using is head unit power, then your missing alot anyway.

How do they compromise the front stage if they have been upgraded to the same quality as the fronts.

Actually you should here my system. People think the fronts are amped.

Tonal accuracy is not the same as 'staging' and 'imaging'. Ultimately the goal in designing a system is to reproduce the original recording/performance as true as possible. Including imaging which means being able to distingush the various artists and instruments across the 'stage'. When you go to a concert, you don't sit with your back to the 'stage'. What you hear coming from behind you would be reflections of the rear wall, giving you a 'feel' of the size of the venue. Having speakers in front of you as well as behind you playing the same thing, arriving at your ears in different times smears any possible stage into just a flurry of sound. Tonally it may sound good or pleasing to you but until you've experienced a system (home perferably because automobiles are acoustic nightmares) that truelly reproduce a performance it's hard to descibe. Once you hear that, it will be like a lightbulb going on in your head. It will hit you hard and you will spend your life (and wallet) in persuit of that perfection. You will be bitten. Like the rest of us on this forum

hmm, I thought I was already bitten. I've been into high-end 'home' audio since the 70's and i've heard some fabulous home systems, but so far I haven't heard another car system that sounded as good as mine. Louder yes, but not as musically clean and accurate; but then, i don't know very many people in my area that are into car audio.
I'm sure that if I heard yours or some other here, I'd be blown away, and not by just db's

I'm sure I don't have the staging and imaging coming through proper.
It would no doubt take a lot of work and a shit load of money to make a car imaging environment sound accurate

i was planning on using the 500.4 for my front and rear stages. i know that rear speakers dont provide imaging, but you want any speaker working in your car to be imaged so you acan actually hear the damn thing. it is hard for me to imagine being satisfied with haaving sound coming from only one side, not all around. Maybe I'll just bridge the rsd6.5comp's onto the 300.4 or he front stage and just leave the rear speakers were they are and run them off the head unit...oh well..thnx dudes

I agree. I like the additional fill. Whenever I turn the fader all the way to the front, I don't really like the overall sound as much - sounds more 2 dimensional then.
However I do prefer the fronts to be louder than the rears to give the impression of facing the musicians, with the rears giving the impression (however synthetic) of ambient reflection.