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soundstream vs jl audio

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:41 pm
by deathcloud
Ok now my dad is going back to wanting soundstream. But im asking you guys out of these two which one would you get?

(I KNOW PG amps would kick these amps butts but just asking you guys because ur smart)
soundstream
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-SOUNDSTREAM-TRX ... dZViewItem

jl audio
http://cgi.ebay.com/JL-AUDIO-300-2-CAR- ... dZViewItem

again its to power a pair of boston acoustic pro60 speakers which are 125 rms each.

Thanks fellas

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:54 pm
by flogger11
The soundstream, no question in my book.

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:02 pm
by kg1961
jl this is the new soundstream cheap china made like the low end RF
It might have more power but sound like shit
I have and are using the jl in my wifes car very happy almost like my first m25
little clean but great
I have a 500/1 and 300/4 in her vw golf its clean and loud

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:21 pm
by KHPower
Word around the fire is Soundstream isnt as good as it used to be. But , that was just word around the fire :lol:

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:21 pm
by deathcloud
DAAAAMN of course two differing opinions...

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:52 pm
by flogger11
I actually didnt look at the links, I assumed you were buying, oh, say, a reference series or the like. I have no clue about the new stuff....

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:13 pm
by Thumper88
definitely the JL...tried and true.

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:14 pm
by deathcloud
but that soundstream looks awesome and has 175rms so it would have a little bit of headroom... thats what i figured... but yea I was gunna say JL

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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:15 pm
by kg1961
the jl slash amp are good from 1.5-4 ohm same output from 10v to 16 so Like I said
the old school soundstream was the shit I think up there with pg

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:55 am
by stipud
New soundstream is on par with flea market gear. Stay away... JL would be okay, but they tend to be overpriced for the quality you get (minus being able to use any load, I would put it up against PG's Ryval line, which is much cheaper).

Old soundstream amps are in my top 3. It's really too bad that brand was bought out and run into the ground, just like PPI :(

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:43 pm
by deathcloud
Ok that sucks to hear... Well what if I convinced my dad to get a ZX350 which says 100 RMS X 2 to power the boston acoustic 125rms speakers. Is that a good match up? Enough power? Clean sound? Im hoping the ZX350 will show the boston pro60s whose boss and just have abundance of power...

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:57 pm
by flogger11
PLENTY of power, trust me (us?)... You would be hard pressed to find a cleaner amp under $400 (or more)...

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:03 pm
by deathcloud
Ok if he wins it, and doesnt like it ill deffinately take it from him to power my rsd65cs. So im guessing most definately 10/10 the ZX350 beats the JL audio 300/2 by a long shot. Right? How much would you guys pay for a ZX350?

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 10:05 pm
by fuzzysnuggleduck
I don't understand the 300/2 ratings.

The output ratings are shown with a range of ohm loads. Does that mean this amp makes the same amount of power at each load, much like the Xenon with xe.load?

I don't think you can go wrong with the ZX350 or the JL 300/2. They will both, under normal circumstances, provide ample power for your average higher-end component set. I think "SQ" is going to be subjective, but the ZX series have a great reputation in that regard.

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:04 am
by gkitching
Soundstream = Power Acoustic.

JL's have always had the 'impedance matching' circuitry. I always viewed the Xenon amps as PG's direct shot at competeing with JL.

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:28 am
by stipud
gkitching wrote:JL's have always had the 'impedance matching' circuitry. I always viewed the Xenon amps as PG's direct shot at competeing with JL.
Yep... and to be honest, I really miss Xe.load. They did a much better job with it than JL did, as it still allows you to keep all of the headroom of the amp. JL's restriction is much tighter, so it makes the amps sound flat and dull by comparison.

x2 on the ZX amp being a good idea. Those things are cheap as dirt right now, but they pack a ton of performance into a small chassis. Along with the Xenons, those are a great bang for the buck deal. Speaking of which, there's an X200.2 and X100.2 in the classifieds right now, which would also do a great job of powering those comps.

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:54 am
by flogger11
SO BUY A ZX! LOL!

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:25 pm
by Mackenzie
stipud wrote:New soundstream is on par with flea market gear. Stay away... JL would be okay, but they tend to be overpriced for the quality you get (minus being able to use any load, I would put it up against PG's Ryval line, which is much cheaper).

Old soundstream amps are in my top 3. It's really too bad that brand was bought out and run into the ground, just like PPI :(
I wouldnt call jl overpriced, rather than just being very expensive. If they were overpriced, than they wouldn't sell 8)

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:41 pm
by stipud
Mackenzie wrote:I wouldnt call jl overpriced, rather than just being very expensive. If they were overpriced, than they wouldn't sell 8)
Overpriced shit sells all the time, just look at Monster Cables. It's called consumer ignorance. You work at Tweeter, you should know! :lol:

Okay, not saying that people who buy JL equipment are ignorant, and it's still good gear, it's just not worth the money to me is all... so I guess you're right, it's just expensive ;)

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:20 pm
by deathcloud
ok the zx it is. i hope i can get it. unless somone wants to make an offer on one? ill post in buy sell.

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:14 pm
by Mackenzie
stipud wrote:
Mackenzie wrote:I wouldnt call jl overpriced, rather than just being very expensive. If they were overpriced, than they wouldn't sell 8)
Overpriced shit sells all the time, just look at Monster Cables. It's called consumer ignorance. You work at Tweeter, you should know! :lol:

Okay, not saying that people who buy JL equipment are ignorant, and it's still good gear, it's just not worth the money to me is all... so I guess you're right, it's just expensive ;)
I agree, you pay alot for what you get, but atleast its a good product.. With that being said, their are alot of other companies far more expensive than jl, and can be considered very pricey/ or overpriced according to some :lol: macintosh, zapco, treo, dynaudio,boston, ect..

Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 7:29 am
by deathcloud
Well Ill have you guys know that instead of buying the JL audio 300/2 I went ahead and got a ZX350 for the components. I hope that I made a good choice. I am super excited to see the capabilities/sound qualities and output of this amp. I told my dad if he didnt like it, to give it to me! haha. Im trying to get a ti 400.2 for myself. I think the ZX350 and Ti 400.2 are similar...

Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 7:39 am
by flogger11
ZX is slightly more powerful...

Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:37 am
by stipud
flogger11 wrote:ZX is slightly more powerful...
Theoretically yes, but it's a difference of about 10-15 watts, which is wholly inaudible. The Ti series are more reliable and have better crossovers.

But when it all comes down to it, they are basically equivalent.

Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:44 am
by deathcloud
Ok thats good to know. I definately like the Ti 400.2 on the way it looks. In the process of trying to get one...