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My RSDc's are in, not sure what to think...
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:58 pm
by flogger11
I have installed my 10" RSDc's in a .6 or so per chamber sealed enclosure, wired to 4 ohm bridged on my ZPA0.5, not sure what to think so far. First off, I dont have my line driver in yet, so I am at a serious disadvantage in terms of power right now. I also think they need some break in time along, some dialing in w/ crossovers, and my ZPA unleashed!
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 7:03 pm
by thedeal7235
u definetly need( as ur aware) a line driver for that zpa, ( i run mine ported-2 rsdc 10s-, i dont care what anyone says( and trust me for the longest time i was ALWAAYS a sealed guy, but beyond the 3db increase in a ported sub, iregardless of brand, ive always noticed subs sound MORE accurate to me ported than sealed, or atleast in the last 2 years, andd ive used rsdcs, diamond audio D6s, and rockfords-kickers comps in old days( sealed), but, ever since i had my diamonds( which sound best ported) ive ( or my ears) have changed , and love and embrace the ports! oh yeah, when i first got into car audio back in like 1992, i always placed 2nd place in my power class, never first, never third,and that was off of running 2 12rockfords ported, theni switched to sealed, one 15 , then one 18, but that was many years ago-now i prefer 10s

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:15 pm
by stipud
Is this your first 10" setup? They do sound different than 12's. Takes some getting used to, but you might end up liking it. The bass is usually seamless, but it doesn't get as rowdy.
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:19 pm
by flogger11
Ya, my first set of 10's. 12's just dont seam to line up with my seperates like 10's do... Rather than having comps and a sub, it now sounds like one big speaker.
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 5:26 am
by flogger11
I am putting in my PLD-1 this am, will let you guys know what I think after. I am nervous...
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 6:33 am
by stipud
flogger11 wrote:Ya, my first set of 10's. 12's just dont seam to line up with my seperates like 10's do... Rather than having comps and a sub, it now sounds like one big speaker.
Bingo! This is basically the "holy grail" of car audio. If you can make everything sound like it's coming from the front speakers, you win!
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 7:20 am
by scorpio86
like a cyclone in da rear w/ 8" mids in da kicks..
dammit do i ever wanna rock one of those setups..
set up
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 7:43 am
by kg1961
next month I wil have that set up just waiting to get the new sws 8 earthquake subs so they fit under my seats
I will run them off the zx450 side of the reactor and the cyclone off the zx500
I can't wait the bmw will be rocking!!!
I have never heard a cyclone!!!!!!
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 7:55 am
by scorpio86
lol me either.. but one day when its done i might hafta make a trip to ole cuhnanada jus to hear one

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 7:56 am
by Bfowler
my RSDc 12 took about 10 hours to even out.
the sound will change very noticably
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:19 am
by flogger11
I know the box is waaaay too large...
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:46 am
by Bfowler
if you put spacers in it to bring it down to .6, you should be fine
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:35 am
by flogger11
They sound ok, not what I was expecting. They are a little boomy for my tastes, I am sure part of it is my enclosure volume. I figure I am at .8 net or so, not good! according to pg, this needs less than .5 net! I will be pulling them out today, doing a remount w/ some styrofoam to bring it down to .5 cu ft and doing a retake on these subs. If they dont suit my tastes, they will be up for sale on the Phorum today!
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:37 am
by Bfowler
yeah...that is definitely part of the problem.
drop down to at least .6, and let them break in for about 10 hours.
i'm calling dibs on 1 for sure if you decide to sell them!
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:55 am
by scorpio86
i thought sq boxes were suppose to be bigger.. but your claiming more 'boomy' ness' out of a bigger box.. ?? just confused is all

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 11:02 am
by stipud
You got D2's right? If so I call dibs on the other one
Yeah, get em installed properly. I have my 12" in a 1cuft box, so for your 10's to be in nearly the same size... it's too big! Too big!
Re: set up
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 11:56 am
by Rold Gold
mikelycka wrote:
I will run them off the zx450 side of the reactor and the cyclone off the zx500
Thats a bit of power to fun the clone off of. about 3 times the power needed. You'll smoke that thing quick if yer adjustments aren't right. I'm under the thinking that it only required 150 watts.... I'm sure Steve can fill ya in as he has a clone in his install right now...
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:00 pm
by scorpio86
i thought it was 150-300 at 8 ohm.. if it will do 600 at 4... will it not do roughly 300 at 8.. ???

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:12 pm
by dwnrodeo
i thought it was 150-300 at 8 ohm.. if it will do 600 at 4... will it not do roughly 300 at 8.. ???
You're correct. The ZX500 should be a great matchup to the clone.
info
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:17 pm
by kg1961
seems like this post got jacked sorry!
I need more info on the cyclone I have one for the car and also for my home
links, pics, info, people that used it etc...
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:40 pm
by flogger11
stipud wrote:You got D2's right? If so I call dibs on the other one
Yeah, get em installed properly. I have my 12" in a 1cuft box, so for your 10's to be in nearly the same size... it's too big! Too big!
Wow! What a difference a little foam makes! The boominess is gone, they are quite smooth, tight subbies. I would like a little more punch from them, I may open the box back up and put a touch more styro in each chamber.... These subs have a chance of finding a home with me, stay tuned! (wish i had a pair of ssi treo's to side by side with)
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:52 pm
by scorpio86
gosh dammit black zx/zpa are SO SEXY!!!!!!
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:53 pm
by stipud
Much better.
The subs shouldn't sound "punchy" to the point of being artificial sounding. They are tight in such a way that it's just accurate... it sounds like the instrument instead of a subwoofer.
I can definitely sympathize... Every now and then I still miss the aggressive punch and output of my Xmax 12's. But once I hear that silky smooth accurate bass... dayum, the RSDCs are good.
Have you got the linedriver installed yet? They should wake up with a bit more power.
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:54 pm
by Bfowler
keep in mind they arent broken in yet also!
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 1:01 pm
by flogger11
Yep, line driver in! What a diff! I figure I will give them a week or so, they truly are smoooooth sounding subs that completely blend with my comps!