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PG 15's?

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:07 pm
by ferrariboy150
Okay so i finally got my rsd 12s running really good. i have some 0 gague wire and stuff in there and everything. Theyre loud but i really would like something way louder. Does Pg make anything like this that i could run off my tantrum 1200.1?

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:32 pm
by Mackenzie
Pg did make some 15s, but they currently arent in production. You can simply get louder by changing up your box a bit. What are the specs of your current box?

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:40 pm
by ferrariboy150
its 3/4 inch mdf 37"x17.5"x13.5" with a wood divider in the middle. What can i do?

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:00 pm
by Mackenzie
ok, so you have nearly 4 cubes sealed right now. If you are wanting more output, you should look into a ported box. No need looking for new subs for such an easy fix as this :lol:

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:16 pm
by Rold Gold
More woofage is always the answer!!!!!!!!!!!! If yer at 4 cubes now, why not run 2 more 12's. I take it you currently have single 4's right now.. 2 more 4's and run them in series parallel off that amp. That's how I ran 4 Ti12's off that same amp and it was thunder.

These need .78 cubes minimum per the manual.


It's what jesus would do O:) .....................

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:18 pm
by Mackenzie
He just needs to port it. Save your money, and build a ported box.

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:33 am
by smgreen20
Porting is the cheaper easy way, but having 3-4 12"s sealed would still be louder then 1 12" ported or = to 2 12"s ported. Theoreticly that is.

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:45 am
by ferrariboy150
i thought the rsd12's needed 1.8 cubes per though. and thats pretty much what i got as of now. 2 12s

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:30 am
by fuzzysnuggleduck
How loud do you want to go? You're going to have to consider the cabin gain of your vehicle, too. If you want competition-level SPL, it's not going to be as cheap or simple as pulling out sub A and installing sub B.

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:50 am
by Mackenzie
smgreen20 wrote:Porting is the cheaper easy way, but having 3-4 12"s sealed would still be louder then 1 12" ported or = to 2 12"s ported. Theoreticly that is.
We dont even know how much space he has. 4 12s is going to take up alot of room. He is better off doing 2 ported. Ide put my money on 2 12s ported being louder.

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:59 am
by Bfowler
yeah, trying the 2 ported first is the way to go.

adding more speakers means adding more amps, or taking power from the speakers he already has.

if 2 rsd 12's ported isnt loud enough for you...you are going to have to climb a big next step to get the sound you are looking for. starts getting very expensive

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 5:10 pm
by ferrariboy150
okay well what should a ported box be like? deminsion wise. as in like the port size and box size

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 9:18 pm
by ferrariboy150
anyone running ported?

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 9:30 pm
by dako
I've run ported in the past when I had my Silverado, but I felt the trade-off for louder bass wasn't worth the compromise in quality. You can definitely get massive sound with a ported enclosure, but first you're going to need to determine the maximum area you've got to work with, and also what Hz the box should be tuned to. Also, you'll need to determine which port style to go with. Just to get an idea, you can use a calculator to determine box dimension and port length, etc. Something like this from 12volt might give you a head start:

http://www.the12volt.com/caraudio/boxcalcs.asp

There are also lots of resources (or used to be) on the Sound Domain Forum. You might be able to find something under the Subwoofer Solutions section. It took me awhile to realize that sealed enclosures are for me. Of course a lot of that's going to depend on your main musical tastes. I like hard rock and lots of stuff with kick drum and hard beats, so sealed works like a charm for me.

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 6:17 am
by KHPower
I wish PG did make some 15's other than the older titaniums. The newer comp subs from PG could use a 15 to add to the line but increase the power handling to 1500 rms for 15's , 12's 1200 rms and the 10'' to 1000 rms.

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:28 am
by fuzzysnuggleduck
KHPower wrote:I wish PG did make some 15's other than the older titaniums. The newer comp subs from PG could use a 15 to add to the line but increase the power handling to 1500 rms for 15's , 12's 1200 rms and the 10'' to 1000 rms.
Rumor has it we might see an RSdC 15" sometime in the future.

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:09 am
by ferrariboy150
well what would be a good option outside pg too?

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 1:00 pm
by KHPower
There are plenty of good 15' subs on the market right now. What kind of bass are ya looking for?
I use a Audiobahn Immortal 15'' and it pounds and I am partial to Audiobahn for SPL. But I hear a company called Powerbass makes some decent 15''s but they take a ton of juice. Someelse will chime in and list scords of good brands :wink:

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 5:29 pm
by ferrariboy150
im just looking good for rap music type loud bass

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 6:31 pm
by drivingdadevil
Keep the speakers and get a better enclosure. When I first bought my two Ti Elites I built a ported enclosure per PG specs. It sounded good but didn't have enough output for my tastes. So I had Pete K design me a new enclosure and the differance was like night and day. They still had very good sq and played very loud and hit hard as hell. Here's the link http://pwkdesigns.com/.

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:54 pm
by ferrariboy150
how much did that design cost ya?

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:10 pm
by drivingdadevil
Like $50.00. Well worth the money and alot cheaper than swaping out subs. He custom designs the enclosure for your cars cabin response.

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:13 pm
by ferrariboy150
wow thats sick... ill have to give him a call. does he look up cabin size or should i know it

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:03 pm
by drivingdadevil
Click on the how to order button and he has a list of questions he'll ask you. You gotta have this information before you call him.

Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 5:36 pm
by ferrariboy150
what about titanium 15's? i just found a pair for 120 on craigslist. how are those?