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Post by **mr tibbs** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:15 pm

Guys, I just found this tutorial on tweeter mounting that I felt was too good to not share it. It's on another forum but I really think we can all use this. Check it out here. And Tom, sorry for linking to another forum but I thought this was pure brilliance!! This is how I will mount the Ultra tweets in the FJ rather then trying to do fiberglass. Also, now I can try out some large format tweets in the car without worrying about how to mount them!

Post by **Rold Gold** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:31 pm

Just grab the pix because they say it all......... Thats a sweet ideeeeeerrrrrr right there I must say....... I'll be doing that myself at some point..... I can gaaarrrroooonnnnttttteeeeee it.......

Post by **Bfowler** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 10:12 pm

i usually try and hid mine...but damn...that is easy. nice find.

Post by **stipud** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:44 am

mr tibbs wrote:And Tom, sorry for linking to another forum

Why would I have a problem with that?

I've thought about using ricer gauge pods to do this, but finding the right size, and getting one that matches the passenger side is impossible. This is a much better idea.

Thunderdome · Post by **Thunderdome** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 7:44 am

I think this will start a new trend across the whole continent maybe farther if they have plumbing

gkitching · Post by **gkitching** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 8:21 am

Actually, that style of mounting and angling has become the newest trend in competition. More so in Europe then here. This is a very similar set-up we did in an EVO. With the object being, to get the main focus away from any of the reflective surfaces as best as posible. The 'pods' were machined from billet aluminum. Originally they were polished but later painted. But I can definitely see a cost difference there!

Post by **mr tibbs** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 8:21 am

I saw this late last night and was thinking why the hell couldn't I have found this years ago??!! I know some of us here like to try different gear every so often and I though this could benefit us. I had to share!

Post by **mr tibbs** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 8:23 am

Also, if I were to use this method where should I aim the tweets??

Post by **stipud** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 8:40 am

mr tibbs wrote:Also, if I were to use this method where should I aim the tweets??

Depends on the tweet. A home audio tweet is typically better on-axis, while a car audio tweet would be better fired horizontally (45* off axis). Of course the best way to determine this is by doing lots of tests before you mount it permanently.

Post by **mr tibbs** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:13 am

stipud wrote:
mr tibbs wrote:Also, if I were to use this method where should I aim the tweets??
Depends on the tweet. A home audio tweet is typically better on-axis, while a car audio tweet would be better fired horizontally (45* off axis). Of course the best way to determine this is by doing lots of tests before you mount it permanently.

Well lucky for me I just found a way that I can do that easily!

I have heard so many different ways over the years I just can't remember. I never really had this kind of freedom to play with it before so I couldn't remember.

neverman · Post by **neverman** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:14 pm

I understand the advantage for the tweeter in those pods but isn't the volumn lacking for the mids? Just seems like they'd be really hard pressed to perform in such a small enclosure?

gkitching · Post by **gkitching** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 5:05 am

Those are dome style mids (DLS Uridiums) and are already enclosed. So the response is not affected by how they are mounted. But yes that would be a bit small for most cone type drivers.

neverman · Post by **neverman** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 11:38 am

Thanks for the answer. What kind of frequency response comes from a dome mid? I assume they're like a big tweeter and the bottom end is rather limited? They're damn sexy looking at any rate... is it wrong that I want to poke the thing?

Post by **ttocs** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 1:05 pm

am I the only one that is not big on that style? Looks like a wart with a wart on it? I can see that they would sound great right there and can justify the form following the function but I can't say I would ever enjoy lookin at them, just listening to them.

dBincognito · Post by **dBincognito** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 1:10 pm

I didn't want to down it....but the only way I could use that is if I cut holes in my dash to put the mids in...you are supposed to keep the tweeters mounted as close to the mids as possible

I think angled kick panels or even angled door pods would blow that away as far as SQ goes

The tweeters are the last thing I want pointing directly at me

But everyone has their own sound, and style

So, what ever floats your boat
and tickles your pickle
That's the way to go
It really only matters to 1 person
You

dBincognito · Post by **dBincognito** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 1:13 pm

I would be willing to make a fiberglass dash just to try it though....

Post by **mr tibbs** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 3:43 pm

dBincognito wrote:I didn't want to down it....but the only way I could use that is if I cut holes in my dash to put the mids in...you are supposed to keep the tweeters mounted as close to the mids as possible

I think angled kick panels or even angled door pods would blow that away as far as SQ goes

The tweeters are the last thing I want pointing directly at me

But everyone has their own sound, and style

So, what ever floats your boat
and tickles your pickle
That's the way to go
It really only matters to 1 person
You

That's what running active instead of passive and TA is for!

Actually I'm not sure how they will look int he FJ, but I don't care. For me this beats the hell out of trying to take the A pillar off and trying to fiberglass, mainly because I have never done fiberglass before.

dBincognito · Post by **dBincognito** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 3:46 pm

Like I said what ever floats your boat

Let me know how it sounds

Personally I think you will have to keep the gains way down on the tweeters, so they don't give you listening fatigue

dBincognito · Post by **dBincognito** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 3:47 pm

I just like my mids sitting as close to the tweeters as possible.....
Like I said, I would be willing to make a fiberglass dash, and build boxes into the dash for the mids that would be so

Post by **mr tibbs** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 3:48 pm

Actually in the FJ I will be running them passive so there will be no tweet adjustment. If it's too bad I can always move them down by the doors.

dBincognito · Post by **dBincognito** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 3:54 pm

Do you plan on having a rear fill ?

What is the set-up in mind

Post by **mr tibbs** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 4:01 pm

dBincognito wrote:Do you plan on having a rear fill ?

What is the set-up in mind

Not really, there are speakers in the back, but they are in the wayyyyy back. The vehicle is a Toyota FJ Cruiser. The set up will be Wakeup's Kenwood HU using the Ultra comps in the front running passive and an Exile shallow mount sub in the rear all running off of a PG Onyx (Xenon) 200.4. I think it will sound pretty good!

dBincognito · Post by **dBincognito** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 4:04 pm

You could take the rear fill out all together and run the mids and tweeters active giving you independent control of the gains from the driver's seat
via the fader

dBincognito · Post by **dBincognito** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 4:05 pm

Oh wait....then you need another amp

Post by **mr tibbs** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 4:22 pm

dBincognito wrote:Oh wait....then you need another amp

Yep, and that aint a gonna happen. I originally put this system together for the wife because she was driving the FJ all the time. Now we share and I usually drive the FJ so I want something a little better, but I'm not going to go overboard with this install. It's just going to have to do, but something tells me the Kenwood deck is going to help out greatly!!

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