Phoenix Gold Phorum

I'm going to build a box soon, hopefully this week after the rain stops and I get all the details worked out. If you were going to wrap the box in that cloth like material, what would be the best way to do it? I don't want a plain box, but also unsure how to make it look presentable...

I'd say just wrap it tight, staple, staple, staple. Or glue. And you'll wanna make sure you take your time with gluing it , you don't want them seams coming undone.

in my experience, i use the auto carpet-found a place local that sales it in any desired color u can imagine-generally it stretches pretty good, & there is a spray(snot-webbing) type of glue, u spray that snot on the back of ur carpet, and also the box, i tend to start wrapping the box at the front-area that will be seen by others, for me this has always been the openings where my subs go as well, and 4 me, that has always been a larger surface area, so the carpet has stretched perfectly, & ive wrapped going to the inside of the opening, then cutting the carpet from inside of box -but seriously, pics would be better than me trying to explain-you want a good box cutter-that way when u cut its nice and clean, or even industrial scissors-ill see if i have some pics-i "can feel it as im stretching it'( damn, that sounds weird;) pics would be best-let me check, also, after u get carpet, if thats what u decide to use, maybe do a trial run w/out any glue to help you figure out best way to manuever, stretch it etc.

sorry dude, unless u have another person there, its hard to take pics as ur doing, but here are 2 pics , 1 after box wass made and carpeted, and one before-if u have ports spray down those holes with black paint prior to carpeting( i figured that out the hard way)

Gotcha man! I know exactly what you mean by snot spray, I used a good bit of it when I was insulating and sound deadening my 67 mustang. That stuff is expensive but holds pretty damn tight.

Hardest part would be finding the appropriate wrap material. I'm not sure where I could get it besides local upholstry shops and they'll probably try to make a nice profit off of me...

i usuallyhave been able to get 2 yards for 17-19 bux,and the snot spray for 6 bux a can, not sure this is high or low? also in the finished product pic u can still see fuzzys of the carpet in the ports-but a nice sharp razor blade takes care of that-that was literally right when i finished and wanted to see how it looked in the trunk, and hear it-i spent 4 days on that box!

If thats only 2 yards then I should be able to get away with 1, that box looks huge.

The spray I used was 3M and it was 15$ a can

Gkitching also touches on wrapping in his FAQ thread...

http://phoenixphorum.com/post60004.html#60004

stipud wrote:Gkitching also touches on wrapping in his FAQ thread...

http://phoenixphorum.com/post60004.html#60004

- i just checked it out; best things in life are often simple-thats nice!!

Ok, thanks for the tips so far guys! Everything boxwise is slowly coming together in my head and now I have somewhat of a game plan. I'm thinking I'll build the box first without the front board attached so I can adhesive spray the inside and attach poly mat, then I'll attach the front and can figure out how much wrap I will need. The external volume of the box would only be 2ft^3, so 1 yard of wrap might suffice. Hardest part is going to be making the seams look ok, I'm horrible at wrapping Xmas presents. My friend is going to help me with everything though, so we'll get it decent looking...

always get extra............ If you run out it can be a pain to get a good match on color from a different bolt. I normally get enough to cover it 2X so that I can have enough scraps if I need it.

When I went to cover my amp rack in my truck recently I ran out of material and could find a match that was close, but not close enough. I ended up buying enough from that bolt to recover the all the pieces and had to tear the old stuff off and recover it with new stuff. sucks doing it 2X!

If you get carpet, make sure it is unbacked meaning it doesn't have the plastic backing that holds it together. Also make sure that it has some stretch to it by pulling both up and to the sides. It is not uncommon for it to only give in one direction but good stuff will stretch in both directions. The more it stretches the easier your corners and edges will be.

I picked up some supplies at the store today while I was right next door to Joann Fabrics and Ollies. 2 yards of poly mat (only about an inch thick), Loctite adhesive spray, Elmers wood glue, and 2 tubes of silicone. I already have some drywall screws and a powerdrill, those should be fine I think...26.50$ (damn Loctite was 16$!)

I got an interesting idea today, I hope this doesn't sound stupid though. Has anyone ever Line-X'd an enclosure? I figured it may be a bit more expensive, but it would be good in many ways. All the seams would be sealed 100%, it would be impervious to moisture or other elements, it wouldn't come loose or peal back, it would be stronger and you couldnt bust the MDF, it still wouldn't weigh much more (like 1-3lbs), and Line-X just looks cool. Rhino lining looks more like something from the hindquaters of a rhino... And it'd save me time and hassle...

I think I'll get a quote after the box is built. It'll only be about 10sft of surface area, so I'd hope it'd be no more than like 100$...

Edit: Apparently yes:D

I had these covered in Line-X...

That's a great idea. I should do that myself

Eric D wrote:I had these covered in Line-X...

Is that the speaker test lab at RF?

I like those heron profiles!

looks good

fuzzysnuggleduck wrote:

Eric D wrote:I had these covered in Line-X...

Is that the speaker test lab at RF?

It was back in 2002-2005. I think it is all gone now. Last I heard from a current employee at the time 2 years ago was they are all done making speakers. Now it is just a warehouse. No more testing and no more huge woofers.

Here is the web page about the whole power test project…

http://www.soundbuggy.com/Eric/rfprojec ... index.html

It was a lot of fun working on, especially designing the amp rack.