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M100 Question...

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Hello forum! I picked up a couple of M100s in great condition and opened them up to get the capacitor info for replacement and noticed one set on the rails were black, 5200 uf and 50 volts and the second was this:

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They were obviously bigger and look just like the ones on my MS2125. The solder was clean and the screws inside seemed untouched and all the power supply caps were leaking on both. I was wondering if this was normal as both were revision A but with different rail caps. I am going to change them to make them identical, but just wanted to know.

Thanks, Gabe.
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5600uf 50V??? M100 boards with 5600uf were made for Outlaw amplifier sometimes was used for M100. Actually, 5600uf is better caps its made by Panasonic.
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i'm still looking for some rail caps for my m100 so if anyone finds them on ebay let me know please 8)
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I wouldn't mind about 14 rail caps to swap in my M100's
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marko wrote:i'm still looking for some rail caps for my m100 so if anyone finds them on ebay let me know please 8)

Digikey, Mouser, and Newark carry them all day long.......why would you buy caps off ebay, that's just asking to get ripped off. :naughty:



Most caps sold on Ebay are old stock and not worth looking at let alone using.

The rail caps look replaced to me, looks like the cheapo's that Digikey sells. They were not done by PG....that I know for sure.
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Thanks for the info, I've got the black Matsushita Panasonics from digikey for @ $5.60. I bought 8 to do my MS amps, but the M100s are soooo much easier, so they went in first. I used 3 8200 uf caps on the power side instead of the 6 2200 uf. All available at digikey.

I think someone should do a How-To for the M series amps cap replacement because mine didn't go "perfectly".
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00goobs wrote:Thanks for the info, I've got the black Matsushita Panasonics from digikey for @ $5.60. I bought 8 to do my MS amps, but the M100s are soooo much easier, so they went in first. I used 3 8200 uf caps on the power side instead of the 6 2200 uf. All available at digikey.

I think someone should do a How-To for the M series amps cap replacement because mine didn't go "perfectly".
I would have kept it the way it was....it came with 6 for a reason.....or they would have just put in a few instead of 6 and saved money and time
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yeah i would have to agree... think i would have kept it at 6 instead also...

and maybe not upped the farads so much- but maybe you'll be alright??!!! think so if done properly..
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I would have, but I am not ready to repair the vias (bottom solder pad) vs. lifting the capacitor and soldering on the + and - planes. I went in too hot while removing the originals.

I am assuming these are more for reserve capacity vs filtering, so the only disadvantage would be current using 6 leads instead of 12 maybe? I did see the how-to on repairing vias, so I may tackle that eventually. More the reason for 3 is I had the 8200s on hand and just picked up the amps yesterday morning.
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dBincognito wrote:
marko wrote:i'm still looking for some rail caps for my m100 so if anyone finds them on ebay let me know please 8)

Digikey, Mouser, and Newark carry them all day long.......why would you buy caps off ebay, that's just asking to get ripped off. :naughty:



Most caps sold on Ebay are old stock and not worth looking at let alone using.

The rail caps look replaced to me, looks like the cheapo's that Digikey sells. They were not done by PG....that I know for sure.
it's a royal pain in the ass shipping to the UK with those companies, they want the earth in shipping for starters.. there are good caps on ebay if you search..
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marko wrote:
dBincognito wrote:
marko wrote:i'm still looking for some rail caps for my m100 so if anyone finds them on ebay let me know please 8)

Digikey, Mouser, and Newark carry them all day long.......why would you buy caps off ebay, that's just asking to get ripped off. :naughty:



Most caps sold on Ebay are old stock and not worth looking at let alone using.

The rail caps look replaced to me, looks like the cheapo's that Digikey sells. They were not done by PG....that I know for sure.
it's a royal pain in the ass shipping to the UK with those companies, they want the earth in shipping for starters.. there are good caps on ebay if you search..
Possibly someone can middle for you??
screw car audio, I'd rather go fast....errr, wait a minute.
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marko i can get em from rs if you need them do you want me to price them up for you?
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i can get them from RS too then as i have an account but there's usually a premium on shipping! i also have a Fanells account too and these are usually good..
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Outlaw in crate.
2x original shrouded ms2250's.
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Roadster 66 in flight case
Octane LE in box.
Reactor #186 in flight case.
Reactor EQ232
Ti400.2 AL
AX204A + EQ232 + ZPX2 + TBA set
ZCS6 component set
Tantrum+Titanium bass cubes
Ti12d Elite sub
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I just middles some pieces for joerg that he needed. Digikey is only a couple of days away from me and then I can forward them on to you if you want. I have actually got piece in 2 days after ordering them with basic shipping, be happy to help you or anyone else with stuff like this as I have to the time and am a believer in karma..........................
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00goobs wrote:I think someone should do a How-To for the M series amps cap replacement because mine didn't go "perfectly".
http://soundbuggy.com/Eric/Car%20Audio/ ... index.html ;)
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