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karisma · Post by **karisma** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:59 am

hey ive jsut bort 2 PG octane R 12 inch subs, running off an octane r 8.0.1 all second hand, im not a genius at car audio but pretty sure theyre running at 2ohm n theyve been fairly looked after, n theyre loud and very bassy, but they dont have that punch that some other subs have? are the single voice coil octane r 12s like this or does any1 else have the same subs n find them nice n punchy?

thanks for your time
sean

vin78 · Post by **vin78** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 11:06 am

Enclosure type and size?

Welcome to the Phorum BTW

Post by **Bfowler** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 12:10 pm

they can be decently punchy subs. enclusre size/type probibly has the biggest part in this.

444 FED · Post by **444 FED** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:26 pm

Say what?

Some english and full thoughts would help a whole lot.

I actually went cross-eyed trying to read that.

karisma · Post by **karisma** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:13 am

hmm, its one of those cheap double boxes you get from random audio shops with a divider in the middle of it.

thnx for the help so far

Post by **Bfowler** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:42 am

when you say divider, does that mean its sealed or ported?

and if sealed, what is the internal volume of the box?

karisma · Post by **karisma** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 4:34 am

its basically 2 1 cubic foot boxes but its all joined together, and sealed

Post by **Bfowler** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:39 am

hmm, that should be fine for those subs.

what are your crossovers set at?

anyone else have any ideas? even though they are octane's, they should still be decently punchy

karisma · Post by **karisma** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:36 am

am i rite in saying that octanes are maybe PG's lower range, erm think the crossover on my octane R 8.0.1 is set bout 80,

ive jsut picked up some balistic 12 inch subs x 2, think i got em at a gud price, they any gud?

Post by **Bfowler** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:48 am

they are PG's lowest line, but still comprable to middle of the line Kenwood/jbl/infinity etc

i have never heard of those new subs, but it wont hurt anything to try them out!

jbondox · Post by **jbondox** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 7:49 am

444 FED wrote:Say what?

Some english and full thoughts would help a whole lot.

I actually went cross-eyed trying to read that.

so did I...

I ripped in a person for spelling like that before, but found out it was done through his phone, and he was an engineer...ooops

Mastiff · Post by **Mastiff** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 8:25 am

karisma wrote:hey ive jsut bort 2 PG octane R 12 inch subs, running off an octane r 8.0.1 all second hand, im not a genius at car audio but pretty sure theyre running at 2ohm n theyve been fairly looked after, n theyre loud and very bassy, but they dont have that punch that some other subs have? are the single voice coil octane r 12s like this or does any1 else have the same subs n find them nice n punchy?

thanks for your time
sean

Internet to English translation.

Hello, I have just purchased two Octane R 12 inch sub woofers. They are being powered by an Octane R 8.0.1 amplifier.
All the audio gear is in used but very good condition, I am not awfully smart about car audio in general but I do believe the Subwoofers are wired for a 2 ohm final load.

The subwoofers sound very loud and have a acceptable bass output, however they just don’t sound like other better more expensive subwoofers that I have auditioned in the past.

The question that I have is as follows, is the lack out forceful output due to the singe voice coil configuration?
Also does anyone else have the same setup and find it to be less than expected?

Thank you for your time Sir’s

Sean.

karisma · Post by **karisma** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:32 am

I'm back everyone, thank you mastiff for that. Seeing that it is all in good english, can anybody help me. its been stated before that the octanes are a low end range from phoenix gold, but my friends have cheaper equipment that sounds better in my opinion. im not a complete noob when it comes to car audio but i still have alot to learn.

hope my english was a tad better this time. sorry for the lack of it before.

many thanks
Sean

ydnap · Post by **ydnap** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:19 am

What car is it in? is it a sealed trunk (boot) or hatch?

What thickness wiring are you using for the amp? please dont say 8awg..

What thickness speaker wire?

Do you have any fluff in the box?

What head unit (because thats usually the cause of sloppy sound)

Any active XO or are you just running the sound into them?

Any line driver/ EQ?

Answers in the eventuality..

If you're using anything less than 4awg youre going to lose bass punch. I proved this when I thought my battery to ground cable was 4awg and it turned out to be 8awg. I replaced it with 0awg and immediately had tons more bass power, I even had to reduce all my gains on all of my amps.

Make sure your speaker wire is good and thick, for the same reason above.

Fluff in the speaker box can help give the sub more volume by slowing the internal airflow, 'fooling' the sub into thinking it's in a bigger box.

Shit head units (sony, jvc, jensen and so on) all sound mostly like shit. Remember, you get out of your subs what you put in !

You need to find out what frequency those subs are happy at and then tune them with an active XO or EQ.

A line driver will add punch to any system in scenarios where your head unit has a crappy low powered RCA. I use a 9v line driver which was part of my active parametric EQ and again it really added punch to the system.

HTH

Andy

Mastiff · Post by **Mastiff** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:32 am

karisma wrote:I'm back everyone, thank you mastiff for that. Seeing that it is all in good english, can anybody help me. its been stated before that the octanes are a low end range from phoenix gold, but my friends have cheaper equipment that sounds better in my opinion. im not a complete noob when it comes to car audio but i still have alot to learn.

hope my english was a tad better this time. sorry for the lack of it before.

many thanks
Sean

no offence intended just being a smart ass thats all.

ydnap · Post by **ydnap** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 1:35 pm

Mastiff wrote:
no offence intended just being a smart ass thats all.

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Mastiff wrote:
no offence intended just being a smart arse thats all.

Post by **VW337** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 3:29 pm

where's the

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ydnap wrote:
Mastiff wrote:
no offence intended just being a smart ass thats all.
***Yank to Brit Translator Ver 1.0***
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Mastiff wrote:
no offence intended just being a smart arse thats all.

ydnap · Post by **ydnap** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 1:51 pm

LMAO

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