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Then there has to be a leak in that box , the port being a little small should help it to hit great lows , :?
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The box has no leaks at all, and the box is def tuned ok, it just must be that power issue why its restricted! Dont get me wrong it does sound good, but im comparing it to my friends RE-AUDIO subs (2) and they kick my subs ass!
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Pg Elite Sub 1200watts rms!

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How much you offering?!
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selondontiburon wrote:The box has no leaks at all, and the box is def tuned ok, it just must be that power issue why its restricted! Dont get me wrong it does sound good, but im comparing it to my friends RE-AUDIO subs (2) and they kick my subs ass!
What models of RE subs is your buddy running?

Also , can you borrow another amp or try you buddies on your sub just to see if its a power issue?
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Not sure but there about 600rms each!
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ATTENTION

PLEASE TRY THIS AND LET ME KNOW WHAT HAPPENS :)
stipud wrote:Problem 1... bass boost...

Bass boost is bad, mmkay! For every 3dB of boost, you are forcing the amp to try to double it's output at that frequency. Not good! Not only does it give you a hugely bloated response at the boost frequency, it sucks the powersupply clean, and produces clipped, noisy output. Turn bass boost OFF and keep it there.

Your HP frequency is looking pretty high. You want to set that to 10Hz below the tuning frequency of your sub box. If you don't know what that is, just set it very low.

Now play around with the LP frequency to get it to blend well with the front stage. Ideally you will want ~80Hz or so, to blend in with your front stage. Make sure that voices don't become boomy, otherwise it's set too high.

Finally, your gain adjustment. Read this FAQ to learn how:
http://phoenixphorum.com/gain-setting-w ... vt280.html

Basically, you will want a 50Hz test tone. Disconnect the sub, and connect a multimeter to the speaker wires. Now, since you want 1500 watts at 2 ohms, we use the formula sqrt (1500 * 2) = 55 volts. Adjust the gains until you reach this point. You can turn it up above this if you've got a remote sub volume control knob, but you must realize that if you play tracks with loud bass, you have to turn the knob down until it is not clipping anymore.
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^^^ ???
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Alright, a bit simpler then...

Turn off your bass boost completely.

Turn down your HP frequency to ~20.

Turn the headunit up to 3/4 volume or so, and put on a track with loud bass. Now adjust the gain until it's loud enough, but turn it back down if you hear any distortion, or if it stops getting louder.
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Ok ill try that 2mora, thanks dude! this ovs means the gain is then set correctly! right....!?
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selondontiburon wrote:Ok ill try that 2mora, thanks dude! this ovs means the gain is then set correctly! right....!?
Well, to set the gain correctly you technically have to do that multimeter thing I was talking about... but let's see if this makes a difference first before we start going there.
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selondontiburon wrote:Not sure but there about 600rms each!
I have seen a few of the 600rms models in action and I dont think they are anything better then your sub , not by a long shot.
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If all is set up correctly, your Elite should be looking like this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to7PHrOGqBc
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If there is something wrong with your electrical system, amp, or box....selling the sub isn't going to magically fix it.
my ex-girlfriend said "its car audio or me"
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Bfowler wrote:If there is something wrong with your electrical system, amp, or box....selling the sub isn't going to magically fix it.
I drink to that
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Oh im still getting my Alt upgraded soon and i now have a yellow top. The sub sounds alot better and actually it DOES drop hard, i think i was just expecting it to flex my windows and stop my blood from pumping lol.
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Nice sub and amp!
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^ Thanks man, buts the sub is being sold now hopefully!
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So here every1, i did a few vids of my bass (i know im bad putting the gains up again but just wanted 2 quickly show how it is, if you can tell this way of corse) The gain aint high as before, its around 60-70%

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the carpet on your box blowing can't be doing anything constructive....

(not the end of the world, but worth fixing)
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how come i can not see any pic's.. what's that about??
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Yeah man dont worry, ill sort the box out!
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