my install

tristan20 · Post by **tristan20** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:47 am

Marko, did you ever try the balanced out from that deck to any of the processors? I wanted to know if it would work with my denon.

marko · Post by **marko** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:38 am

tristan20 wrote:Marko, did you ever try the balanced out from that deck to any of the processors? I wanted to know if it would work with my denon.

yes i did, rj45 cat5e cable to mini-din into the eq230, works a treat!

tristan20 · Post by **tristan20** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:49 am

wow thanks, what pin config did you use?

marko · Post by **marko** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:37 am

i got the info off the pg website, not sure if the site is still up but i do have the info still if you want it, pm me your email addy and i'll send it.

nick-caper · Post by **nick-caper** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 4:01 pm

I dont understand the idea of having tweeters pointing 90 degress from my ears...it just dont make much sense.

Post by **bdubs767** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 8:08 pm

nick-caper wrote:I dont understand the idea of having tweeters pointing 90 degress from my ears...it just dont make much sense.

alright know it all...why dont we tell the entire forum how to install their systems.

Could be though to prevent a beaming sensation, help with imaging, staging ect....but what do I know.

nick-caper · Post by **nick-caper** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 8:12 pm

I didnt tell anybody how to install anything. Im saying I dont understand why people do it that way? I made some tweeter pods for my Mazda 3 and had the tweeters point to the center of the car. To me it sounded better than having the tweeter point to each other. Am I wrong? Seriously.
I read that pointing the tweeters to the windshield helps with imaging but to me when I tried it, it sucked. So maybe i am doing something wrong.
The system looks fabulous.
Im not downing it. I like it.

marko · Post by **marko** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 10:11 pm

when you use a tweeter with a good off axis responce in that configuration (tlr has bucket loads!) the benefits are to reduce amplitude to the nearest tweeter thus giving good imaging and staging

it works very good for my set up anyhow!

Post by **bdubs767** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 8:05 am

marko wrote:
it works very good for my set up anyhow!

If the tweeter has good dispersion characteristics IMO it works amazing in most installs.

marko · Post by **marko** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 8:43 am

the tlr is famed for working great in the A pillars because of it's dispersion characteristics, i can't understand why focal didn't use the waveguides on the new BE tweeters?

i would like to try the BE tweeters but i'm not convinced they're any better especially considering the application plus's of the tlr's...

Post by **bdubs767** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 9:18 am

marko wrote:the tlr is famed for working great in the A pillars because of it's dispersion characteristics, i can't understand why focal didn't use the waveguides on the new BE tweeters?

i would like to try the BE tweeters but i'm not convinced they're any better especially considering the application plus's of the tlr's...

for the spot your in stick with the tlrs...the seas neos al I have now are amazing though. I know they are cheap but these little tweeters are jaw dropping, on paper and by the ear. You could try the Scan Speak 6600 I just took a listen to them a few days ago and it was breif but lets say nothing else has ever come close.

marko · Post by **marko** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:35 am

had a bit of a rebuild with a new subwoofer set up, got loads of room to haul crap about in now

Alan Ang · Post by **Alan Ang** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 8:23 pm

marko wrote:t's based on the denon z1 and has a copper chassis, no detatchable face though...

not sure on dacs, same as z1.

paid about $1k for it all in.

thats a z1 alright. i have a z1 myself.
in fact recently, sold 2 units and may own a 3rd one soon.

for 1k, you have it at a steal!
i wish mine costs as little...

Alan Ang · Post by **Alan Ang** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 8:27 pm

marko wrote:yes i did, rj45 cat5e cable to mini-din into the eq230, works a treat!

any rj45 cat5e will work?

marko · Post by **marko** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 11:16 pm

Alan Ang wrote:
marko wrote:yes i did, rj45 cat5e cable to mini-din into the eq230, works a treat!
any rj45 cat5e will work?

has to be sheilded, not as popular as a regular cat5e cable but still out there and cheap enough, never had any issues with mine since i made it

and $1k was about the norm for a z1 a couple of years ago, maybe a little more, but since then they seem to have rocketed up in price!!

Pedi · Post by **Pedi** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 7:12 am

Nice Install, no doubt!!! Clean and with lovely components...

Alan Ang · Post by **Alan Ang** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:14 am

yes, the install is really inspiring. i am going to model mine similar to yours!

Alan Ang · Post by **Alan Ang** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:15 am

marko wrote:
Alan Ang wrote:
marko wrote:yes i did, rj45 cat5e cable to mini-din into the eq230, works a treat!
any rj45 cat5e will work?
has to be sheilded, not as popular as a regular cat5e cable but still out there and cheap enough, never had any issues with mine since i made it

and $1k was about the norm for a z1 a couple of years ago, maybe a little more, but since then they seem to have rocketed up in price!!

yeah... my first z1 is $1550! the following one was even higher! gosh... they are really sky rocketing.

oldskoolmseriesfan · Post by **oldskoolmseriesfan** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:26 pm

DUUUDE! YOUR GEAR BRINGS ME WAY BK INTHA DAY. VERY CLEAN INSTALL, GOOD 2 C DIYER WITH A PASSION FOR YOUR WORK. I HAD AN M50 BK INTHA DAY POWERING MY FRONT STAGE AND 2 12INCH KIKR XPLS WIRED IN PRLEL BRIDGED MONO....137.7 DB'S AND VERY CLEAN. I KICKED THE CRAP OUTTA THAT AMP, AND IT STILL ROCKED. IM ACTUALLY IN THE MARKET 4 SOME M OR MS SERIES EQUIPMNT. ANY IDEAS? PS IM RUNNING FOCAL ACCESS CMPNTS AND POLYGLASS COAXELS RIGHT NOW, VERY GOOD STUFF ASWELL.

stefanbatory · Post by **stefanbatory** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 2:16 pm

Marko beautiful install no doubts about it.
But I have a queation what are the crosover points and are there both pairs of midwoofers "cut" the same or is one pair just playing the lower frequencies? I'am just wondering that if the mid-wofers are at different angel, are they any problems whit them playing in the same phase?

marko · Post by **marko** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:40 pm

stefanbatory wrote:Marko beautiful install no doubts about it.
But I have a queation what are the crosover points and are there both pairs of midwoofers "cut" the same or is one pair just playing the lower frequencies? I'am just wondering that if the mid-wofers are at different angel, are they any problems whit them playing in the same phase?

they are differant speakers, the kicks are focal 6w mid only and don't play below 150hz very well and the doors were 7w2's and played 56-150hz.

i don't have that car anymore and also sold the ms amps (except the ms2250

)

i just hope i can get my next system to sound like that one, it was awsome to say the least...