How hard to get 6.5's into 5.25's?

Capital_M · Post by **Capital_M** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 1:35 pm

This is not my car, but i have the same car so look at where the speaker is,
its a 5.25 at an angle with the little compartment almost attached to it.

How much do you think a shop would charge to make 6.5's fit

Post by **Bfowler** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 1:43 pm

you could go with a slightly smaller 160mm and it might be a possibility. (6.5's are 165mm)

it is probably more of a depth issue then a width issue, its hard to tell without the door panel off

Capital_M · Post by **Capital_M** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 1:55 pm

Well I know that the speaker gaurd grill is a little over 5.25

I was thinking if they made a baffle for over plastive door panel part it would work and give it some depth.

I really want the midbass of the RSD65cs, i'd love to just drop in thr 5.25 but i heard the midbass just doesnt compare

Mackenzie · Post by **Mackenzie** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 2:01 pm

Taking off your door panel and taking a picture would help us alot more, but im pretty sure you can make it fit fairly easily. Just build a baffle, and cut any acess metal if needed with some hand cutting tools to make the slot a tad larger for the 6.5.

Capital_M · Post by **Capital_M** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 2:02 pm

Its really really really cold, I dont wanna pull the door panel off as I may crack something, otherwise I would have. Sorry guys

Post by **AVICJR** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 2:05 pm

You can also cut some MDF for a baffle and build the speaker out, this will give you a little more depth. That's what I did but be careful not to let the speaker face touch the front of the door grill.

Capital_M · Post by **Capital_M** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 2:06 pm

AVICJR wrote:You can also cut some MDF for a baffle and build the speaker out, this will give you a little more depth. That's what I did but be careful not to let the speaker face touch the front of the door grill.

I would have to use the grills that come with the RSD as these are too small

dgoodhue · Post by **dgoodhue** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 2:28 pm

You could also find a forum of your car and search/ask around if anyone had fit a 6.5" in the door. Unless someone has esxpereince work on your model of car, most of us can't tell by looking at a door panel, same probably goes for a shop as well

Capital_M · Post by **Capital_M** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 2:38 pm

dgoodhue wrote:You could also find a forum of your car and search/ask around if anyone had fit a 6.5" in the door. Unless someone has esxpereince work on your model of car, most of us can't tell by looking at a door panel, same probably goes for a shop as well

Tried posting it on a grand prix forum, no luck yet

Post by **fuzzysnuggleduck** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:11 pm

I really think we have to see the inside of the door panel to get any idea of how to fit the RSD65cs woofers.

My first concern would be depth and then the mounting area size as that can usually be "adjusted" with the right power tools.

Post by **Bfowler** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:30 pm

fuzzysnuggleduck wrote:My first concern would be depth

thats what i though.

usually there is only just enough clearance behind of the plastic panels so you cant raise the woofer out much. and if you don't raise it, the window wont clear

Capital_M · Post by **Capital_M** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:16 pm

I dont think depth will be an issue here, as you can see in the picture, the woofer is mounted at a downward angle and is not flush with the door

Post by **VW337** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:46 pm

If that is the pontiac bonneville that it looks like you should have no issue fitting the RSd 6.5's in it. maybe a bit of creativity will be needed for a bit of depth coverage aka mdf ring or some such but you should be fine.

Capital_M · Post by **Capital_M** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:48 pm

VW337 wrote:If that is the pontiac bonneville that it looks like you should have no issue fitting the RSd 6.5's in it. maybe a bit of creativity will be needed for a bit of depth coverage aka mdf ring or some such but you should be fine.

Its actually a grand prix

Post by **bdubs767** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 2:13 pm

is the speaker mounted in the door panel or the actual door?

Capital_M · Post by **Capital_M** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 2:14 pm

bdubs767 wrote:is the speaker mounted in the door panel or the actual door?

door

Capital_M · Post by **Capital_M** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 2:19 pm

How big of a sound difference am I going to notice between the RSD 6.5's and 5.25s with it crossed over around 70hz *sub will be at 68hz)

Post by **Bfowler** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 2:23 pm

not that much, if you are going RSD get the rsd6cs. and then there will be almost NO difference and it will be just a bit smaller (5mm in diameter)

Capital_M · Post by **Capital_M** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 2:28 pm

Bfowler wrote:not that much, if you are going RSD get the rsd6cs. and then there will be almost NO difference and it will be just a bit smaller (5mm in diameter)

Well the thing is I dont want to spend the money on moding the door at all, I also dont want to mod the door at all as I plan to sell the car in a few years. I'd also like to take all my speakers with me.

I guess since im not taking the mids down like liek 50hz that the 5.25 would pound ALMOST as hard. Correct?

I also dont have power tools to fabricate anything myself.

I just heard that the 6.5s pound INSANE and i dont want to be disapointed by the 5.25s

dedlyjedly · Post by **dedlyjedly** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 3:00 pm

In order to achieve the best midbass (whether it's a 5" or 6" driver) the mounting baffle is one of the most critical elements. this usually means building a set of custom baffles out of a good solid material like MDF (make sure to treat them for moisture!). But as long as you're building the baffles you may as well tailor them to the 6". I believe you've got enough working room between the door panel and the sheetmetal (that's an early 2000's grand am, right?) on the door to accomodate a good solid baffle that allow for a bigger speaker, but also angle the driver to mimic the angle of the factory grill on the door panel.

Post by **fuzzysnuggleduck** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 3:50 pm

dedlyjedly wrote:In order to achieve the best midbass (whether it's a 5" or 6" driver) the mounting baffle is one of the most critical elements. this usually means building a set of custom baffles out of a good solid material like MDF (make sure to treat them for moisture!). But as long as you're building the baffles you may as well tailor them to the 6". I believe you've got enough working room between the door panel and the sheetmetal (that's an early 2000's grand am, right?) on the door to accomodate a good solid baffle that allow for a bigger speaker, but also angle the driver to mimic the angle of the factory grill on the door panel.

Listen to this guy. He gives good install advice

dragonplayboy · Post by **dragonplayboy** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 3:47 pm

with a crowbar and enough vaseline, ANYTHING will fit.

Post by **Bfowler** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 3:49 pm

dragonplayboy wrote:with a crowbar and enough vaseline, ANYTHING will fit.

sometimes not.

sometimes you have to get some extra leverage by fitting handlebars on the back

Capital_M · Post by **Capital_M** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 5:03 pm

Im just gonna go with the 5.25's Less headache and I shouldnt even notice a difference with it crossed over at 68 hz

Post by **AVICJR** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:58 pm

Capital_M wrote:Im just gonna go with the 5.25's Less headache and I shouldnt even notice a difference with it crossed over at 68 hz

Did you even try to get the bigger speaker's in? You'll be surprised at what a little ingenuity will get you. I say go bigger.