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 Post subject: Re: Servicing a Cyclone
PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 11:51 am 
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Applying spray helps to keep the core together. The magnet will loose small particles over time, the spray just keeps them bonded to the core longer.
The cyclones I serviced back when making this thread still kick ass.

When you don't apply any spray, particles will get stuck between the core and coil sooner, that's all.
Hope this helps.
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 Post subject: Re: Servicing a Cyclone
PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 4:37 pm 

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Thanks for the info


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 Post subject: Re: Servicing a Cyclone
PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 2:15 pm 

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I have tried about everything in getting my cyclone unstuck. Does anyone that has cleaned one have any suggestions? I don't have a vice to use as suggested.


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 Post subject: Re: Servicing a Cyclone
PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 12:11 am 
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You could try, scraping into the debri with a valve- clearance gauge like used in the car industry and work your way down while holding a vacuumcleaner close to the area you work on.

This way you could loose some of the debri bit by bit and in the end get the coil out. This does take patience though !!
Bend the valve clearance so it will fit into the round space between the coil and rotor.

It's the best I can think of.... good luck.
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 Post subject: Re: Servicing a Cyclone
PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 5:10 am 

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Thanks, I'll give it a try


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 Post subject: Re: Servicing a Cyclone
PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 3:58 pm 

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So I got the cyclone apart finally. The magnet is broken off in one spot. Does anyone know how much of the magnet can be missing and the sun still work.


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 Post subject: Re: Servicing a Cyclone
PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 11:10 pm 
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Can you post a picture of the broken off area, so we can have a look?

A big piece broken off , will affect the movement of the vanes [ output of the cyclone] but if it's not too large I'd say go for it.
I would defenately go for the normal treatment of the core, cleaning- procedure and check the output afterwards with a signal-generator.

Good luck,
Nico
[ and do post some pics..]


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 Post subject: Re: Servicing a Cyclone
PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2015 4:42 am 

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I got both my cyclones apart and I'm afraid I'm gonna have to have one for parts and one that works. With my first one it has a chunk of the magnet broken off and on the second the "hot" wire is burned. Since one is probably gonna be junk anyway I may try to get it working and hope for the best. I can put the broken magnet back together and seal it so that it won't move or shake around and the burnt wire can be replaced. What's everyone's thoughts. I was really wanting to hear and feel both of these working.


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 Post subject: Re: Servicing a Cyclone
PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2015 9:06 am 
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Ouch.. that hurts my eyes.

I think there's going to be one to look at and one to listen to..... :cry:
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 Post subject: Re: Servicing a Cyclone
PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2015 9:23 am 

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Might be able to epoxy it back together...good luck, worth the shot.


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 Post subject: Re: Servicing a Cyclone
PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2015 1:59 pm 
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epoxy a magnet? Pretty sure they are not that easy.



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 Post subject: Re: Servicing a Cyclone
PostPosted: Sun May 03, 2015 5:59 pm 

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Instead of using three different forum topics, I will start a new on about my journey servicing my cyclones. Please feel free to follow me on my journey making my clones come alive. I look forward to everyone's comments.


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 Post subject: Re: Servicing a Cyclone
PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2015 7:21 am 

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Be sure to keep up with my Cyclone journey in the forum. here is he link viewtopic.php?f=10&t=25010&p=251980#p251980


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 Post subject: Re: Servicing a Cyclone
PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 12:11 pm 

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So I now have this new obsession of fixing the PG Cyclones. If there is anyone out there wanting to sell one message me. [email protected]


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 Post subject: Re: Servicing a Cyclone
PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2015 9:29 am 

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Here is a copy of an email that I just got from the new owner of PG. hope it helps out.


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 Post subject: Re: Servicing a Cyclone
PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2015 9:48 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Servicing a Cyclone
PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2015 10:36 am 
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welcome to the forum, we are happy you are into the cyclones. You will get a better response if instead of plastering the same thing on 10-15 different posts already made, just make your own.......................



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 Post subject: Re: Servicing a Cyclone
PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:03 am 

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I know this is an old thread but just wanted say Thank you to Nico for writing it up. It has been a great help.

Not sure if anyone is paying attention or not but after coating the core with the varnish would it not be helpful to also spray a light coat of Dry lubricant on it?


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 Post subject: Re: Servicing a Cyclone
PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:19 am 

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You can use something like graphite as a dry lube. Just use it sparingly. While it is a lube, it also takes up space. Depending on how much varnish you used, there may be places that are a tight fit. Ill give it a try myself and see if it helps out on both the heat and wear=n=tear.


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 Post subject: Re: Servicing a Cyclone
PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:45 am 

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I am in the process now of servicing a cyclone so I was considering using some pfte.


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 Post subject: Re: Servicing a Cyclone
PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 9:49 am 
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I thought it rotated around sealed bearings? If that is the case I am not sure how much it will help, but to consider the cons that if it isn't dry it will just collect dust and then you never know if it will mess with the coating you just put on it? I would save the lube myself.



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 Post subject: Re: Servicing a Cyclone
PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:10 am 

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Yea I am just going to stick to what had been done before.


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 Post subject: Re: Servicing a Cyclone
PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 2:36 pm 
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I could see possibly replacing the bearings and thought that some router bearings matched up for someone that swapped them out.



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