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Post by mistawikid »

make an 8, make an 8, make an 8!!! Nothing crazy, just some NICE mid bass subs. I'm waiting for em!
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Are there any plans for a shallow mount sub? That seems the be the latest thing especially with the tight areas in some cars/trucks.
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Amy thoughts on a mixed 3 Channel a/b and D class. Built in 2way cross over to a full range out to the A/B side for stereo and the low pass to a mono class D.
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Post by rlockwood »

GX3 wrote:Amy thoughts on a mixed 3 Channel a/b and D class. Built in 2way cross over to a full range out to the A/B side for stereo and the low pass to a mono class D.
Same thing can generally be accomplished with a 4 channel, and at a much lower cost. Theres obviously some small benefits you're missing out on with that approach, but the real market for such an amp doesn't give a shit about any of them..
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Post by MW3 »

Rob hit this one on the head. However, a six channel with 400+ watts class D sub section that might be a nice one amp solution...

Shallow and 8 inch midbasses are also things we are researching.
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GX3 wrote:Amy thoughts on a mixed 3 Channel a/b and D class. Built in 2way cross over to a full range out to the A/B side for stereo and the low pass to a mono class D.
I have one of these PG beasts. It goes by the name Roadster 66 and with the front and rear channels bridged, makes a nice 3 channel A/B and D amp in one chassis. around 250 watts for Left channel, 250 for Right channel and 650 for the low pass mono.
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i'd love to eventually see a mono amp with the equivalent footprint of the old tantrum 1200.1, with about as much power, but obviously more reliability than the tri-path chip architecture. 2 and 4 ohm capable would be totally sweet.
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If you like the T1200.1.

There will be three different amps to choose from in the 1000 to 1500 watt range with varying footprints, some big, some very small.

They will all be 1 ohm stable amplifiers.
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MW3 wrote:If you like the T1200.1.

There will be three different amps to choose from in the 1000 to 1500 watt range with varying footprints, some big, some very small.

They will all be 1 ohm stable amplifiers.

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MW3 wrote:If you like the T1200.1.

There will be three different amps to choose from in the 1000 to 1500 watt range with varying footprints, some big, some very small.

They will all be 1 ohm stable amplifiers.
Wow dako got a boner. 1 ohm stable! Sick. 1500 watts?MMmmmmmmm...

quick question... Why would someone want a big footprint versus getting something smaller?

Thats like saying well you can get this tube tv or get this slim LED tv... 100 percent of the time people will go with the slimmer TV. So why would you make it a bigger footprint? May be a stupid question but I see everyone wanting smaller footprints to fit it easer. Nah mean?
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deathcloud wrote:
MW3 wrote:If you like the T1200.1.

There will be three different amps to choose from in the 1000 to 1500 watt range with varying footprints, some big, some very small.

They will all be 1 ohm stable amplifiers.
Wow dako got a boner. 1 ohm stable! Sick. 1500 watts?MMmmmmmmm...

quick question... Why would someone want a big footprint versus getting something smaller?

Thats like saying well you can get this tube tv or get this slim LED tv... 100 percent of the time people will go with the slimmer TV. So why would you make it a bigger footprint? May be a stupid question but I see everyone wanting smaller footprints to fit it easer. Nah mean?
I would assume the smaller footprint amps are class D while the bigger footprint amps will be A/B. I could be wrong, though...
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Post by audiophyle_247 »

Price is also a determining factor, sometimes the smallest size isnt the smallest price, and when you only have so much to spend & need all the power you can buy...........

Cant wait to see what comes of all of this. Perfect timing too, because I will be getting a new car in the next few months that will need some audio lovin.
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Post by MW3 »

Smaller is not always cheaper, actually it can be quite the opposite.

There is still a strong market for customers that want big, bad ass amplifiers in terms of physical size and power.

However with newer cars, limited space and new technologies this makes small amplifiers very attractive. They also play a key role in the market.

We will address both segments of the market.
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MW3 wrote:Smaller is not always cheaper, actually it can be quite the opposite.

There is still a strong market for customers that want big, bad ass amplifiers in terms of physical size and power.

However with newer cars, limited space and new technologies this makes small amplifiers very attractive. They also play a key role in the market.

We will address both segments of the market.
i hope this time the mono amp double his power with half impedance.....
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I would like to see

A 10X MULTIPLIER ON THE AMPS!!!!!!!!
( The whole RSD line is useless without them )

6 Channel line driver with independent gain controls for each channel ( Left and Right, not combined ). ( 6 inputs, 6 outputs ).....not 2 inputs and 6 outputs.

DD10 that is not Ti or AL, doesn't rust and actually looks cool

LE amp, such as the Reactor....perhaps a new version of the Reactor that won't rust.

A serious line of speakers and amplifiers, not just entry level.

Gold boards, hence the name " Phoenix Gold ".......I won't hold my breath though.


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6 Channel line driver with independent gain controls for each channel
So you just mean a TLD-66?

I love my TLD-66 and having independent gain control of each channel. Good call though. A little update would be worthwhile.
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deathcloud wrote:
6 Channel line driver with independent gain controls for each channel
So you just mean a TLD-66?

I love my TLD-66 and having independent gain control of each channel. Good call though. A little update would be worthwhile.
No......I was thinking more like a 6 channel version of the old PLD-1


I didn't like any of the Tantrum stuff
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dBincognito wrote:
No......I was thinking more like a 6 channel version of the old PLD-1

I didn't like any of the Tantrum stuff
TLD66 was a six channel version of PLD1.

It just uses SMT to decrease the size, which was major request from installers.

We are looking at numerous line driver and OEM integration solutions.
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MW3 wrote:
dBincognito wrote:
No......I was thinking more like a 6 channel version of the old PLD-1

I didn't like any of the Tantrum stuff
TLD66 was a six channel version of PLD1.

It just uses SMT to decrease the size, which was major request from installers.
But it was only available in black, was not very attractive cosmetically, and you have to remove the cover to adjust it......that's my complaint about it, and why I don't have one.....I have 3 PLD-1's instead
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If ur worried about cosmetics talk to matt. Thats why we have him. To powder coat ne thing and make it sexy. Because what u think ia ugly may suffice others.

However i do agree on having to take off the top lid is bothersome. Not omly that but i feel like i am going to either short something or break a component. I liked the ones with the gain adjust or pots on the lid expoaed. Easy to adjust.
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Post by El-Akeem »

In terms of crossover and gain features, you should have a look at the ARC SE Series, their features are perfect.

x10 multipliers are not necessary for entry level amps. But please offer separate high- and low pass controls, and allow the highpass to start at about 20 Hz, so that it can be used as an infrasonic filter.

In the German market, even entry level amps offer these features.
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Post by bruther »

MW3 wrote:
dBincognito wrote:
No......I was thinking more like a 6 channel version of the old PLD-1

I didn't like any of the Tantrum stuff
TLD66 was a six channel version of PLD1.

It just uses SMT to decrease the size, which was major request from installers.

We are looking at numerous line driver and OEM integration solutions.
Any chance there will be a new DD5 or DD10 with a smaller footprint??
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dBincognito wrote:
MW3 wrote:
dBincognito wrote:
No......I was thinking more like a 6 channel version of the old PLD-1

I didn't like any of the Tantrum stuff
TLD66 was a six channel version of PLD1.

It just uses SMT to decrease the size, which was major request from installers.
But it was only available in black, was not very attractive cosmetically, and you have to remove the cover to adjust it......that's my complaint about it, and why I don't have one.....I have 3 PLD-1's instead
I see your point as cosmetics are very personal, but line drivers tend to be hidden away up front anyways since their purpose is generally to drive the long run to the back. I'm sure there are cases where the line driver is visible in an installation but then we're just back to personal taste.
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