New camaro vid! Challenger, and stang aswell

Mackenzie · Post by **Mackenzie** » Sun Mar 29, 2009 7:31 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as2erdrkQbI&feature=dir

And yet, the camaro still doesnt beat the mustang pathetic 300hp engine by much.

Will be interesting to see these comparisons in 2011 when the stang gets the new power plants.. As for the challenger, its pretty pathetic. Imo, gm came out with this car to little, to late. Opinions?

Post by **joerg** » Sun Mar 29, 2009 7:46 pm

It´s easy to take the top of the line engine for the camaro and the smaller 5.7l Hemi for the challenger and tell people the camaro is faster!

What about taking the 6.1l Hemi and test it again

I´m pretty sure GM has thrown money into this to make people believe they are top of the hill!

Mackenzie · Post by **Mackenzie** » Sun Mar 29, 2009 8:11 pm

joerg wrote:It´s easy to take the top of the line engine for the camaro and the smaller 5.7l Hemi for the challenger and tell people the camaro is faster!
What about taking the 6.1l Hemi and test it again

I´m pretty sure GM has thrown money into this to make people believe they are top of the hill!

Well they are comparing price points I believe... The challenger is more expensive than the mustang gt, and the camaro. I am disapointed in the challenger though. The v6 camaro almost beats it..

5.9Limited · Post by **5.9Limited** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 8:07 am

personally I really like the looks of the challenger the most. I know a guy who has the srt 8 model with the 6.1 liter hemi and Im pretty confident that it would beat the camaro. I realize they probably tested price points, however, I think its a little more fair to take the best of each manufacturer and put 'em head to head.

If GM was hoping for the redesign to help their current $$ woes, I think they needed to release the vehicle at least a year ago, and even then, with the price tags these cars have, and the limited market who buy, and drive them, ( Iwould love a challenger but you can't fit kids and stuff in em!) . I don't see it helping them out much at all.

They're all nice looking cars for the most part.

andy600rr · Post by **andy600rr** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 2:10 pm

IMO comparing price points in this type of market is pointless.

Can you imagine a GM guy buying a Mustang because he got more 'bank for his buck'......... I think not.

These cars sell into a market where the buyer has already made up thier mind what they are going to buy based on brand loyalty/heritage/cosmetics/bragging rights etc....

Mackenzie · Post by **Mackenzie** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:30 pm

Well in that case, ford beats them all.. the shelby will kill every car in this line up. Thats top dog, so its fair

They lined the shelby up with the challenger srt8, and the challenger got whooped. The challenger still won though because it had a little better interior

This was with the old shelby, with the new shelby, it will demolish it even worse...

The old shelby as it is now ran a 12.6, the challenger srt8 13.1, and the camaro, about the same time as the challenger. link

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/cou ... mance.html

Mackenzie · Post by **Mackenzie** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:33 pm

Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGKFh2xTpTg

Mackenzie · Post by **Mackenzie** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:37 pm

Now back to the challenger, its a bit late for it....

Post by **joerg** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:04 pm

Mackenzie wrote:Now back to the challenger, its a bit late for it....

I´m sure it is! It might be the last muscle car ever build

Mackenzie · Post by **Mackenzie** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:41 pm

joerg wrote:
Mackenzie wrote:Now back to the challenger, its a bit late for it....
I´m sure it is! It might be the last muscle car ever build

I ment to say late for the camaro... Challenger was pretty late too though.

Post by **stipud** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:10 am

Mac lives his life a quarter mile at a time.

If your title wasn't so perfect I would change it to "FORD FORD FORD FORD FORD FORD FORD FORD FORD FORD FORD FORD FORD FORD FORD FORD FORD FORD FORD FORD FORD FORD FORD FORD FORD FORD FORD FORD FORD FORD FORD FORD FORD FORD FORD FORD FORD FORD FORD"

Mackenzie · Post by **Mackenzie** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:37 am

Im open to other companies, aslong as its nice ricer, im good

Infact, if I were rich, probably the only ford car ide own would be a ford gt.. But stipud, facts are facts, the challenger is a slow pig for what it is...

Post by **stipud** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:43 am

A very sexy pig no less... easily the best looking of the three. And that means more than 1/4 times to most people

Mackenzie · Post by **Mackenzie** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:55 am

stipud wrote:A very sexy pig no less... easily the best looking of the three. And that means more than 1/4 times to most people

It does look nice, but this is american muscle.. Last time I checked, that had to do more with power, and speed rather than looks... Also considering it cost more than the rest, and doesnt handle as good as the rest either pretty much makes it worthless? Hence chrysler does not have the best rep on drivetrain...

Post by **stipud** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 12:11 pm

Mackenzie wrote:
stipud wrote:A very sexy pig no less... easily the best looking of the three. And that means more than 1/4 times to most people
It does look nice, but this is american muscle.. Last time I checked, that had to do more with power, and speed rather than looks... Also considering it cost more than the rest, and doesnt handle as good as the rest either pretty much makes it worthless? Hence chrysler does not have the best rep on drivetrain...

The problem with your reasoning is that the people who buy these nouveau-muscle cars are image conscious douchebags for the most part. They buy the cars to "reel in the pussy" -- performance is an afterthought. Also, more expensive = more prestigious. The rich smarmy assholes will feel better about themselves just because they bought the most expensive car.

And as Andy said, there's also the die-hards who would only buy one brand anyways, regardless of how they performed. You can always tune one to be faster than the other, for little money compared to the original purchase price.

All the internet fanboys will be up in arms about performance, but when it comes down to it, there are way more factors that would decide which car to buy.

Mackenzie · Post by **Mackenzie** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 1:57 pm

I suppose so... Its still big and slow though

The car is bigger than my crownvic, and outweighs it by about 400+lbs or so

sharp looking car though, ide drive it. Aslong as it came with a mullet though.

Stryker · Post by **Stryker** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:46 am

top of the line shelby mustang KR is the fastest. best looking IMHO. blue with stripes.