sub up front

Post by **bdubs767** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:07 pm

What do you guys think about this? It would be a peerless XLS 12", sub going into that area

Capital_M · Post by **Capital_M** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:09 pm

Wouldnt that shake things a little too much?

Post by **mr tibbs** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:13 pm

I could see maybe an 8" up there to help with the midbass and bring the bass towards the front of the car, but a 12"??? Isn't that a little overkill?

Post by **AVICJR** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:22 pm

Wouldn't the sun melt the dash.

Post by **bdubs767** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:23 pm

Well, I would glass a box down there for the sub, then cut into the center console and intergrate it all together. Once done you wouldnt even see the woofer, just a grille....kinda like this

Post by **bdubs767** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:32 pm

Capital_M wrote:Wouldnt that shake things a little too much?

no...not if done right. I dont have much worries about the install, Im more worried about theory. Is there any benefit to doing this? As doesn't it take the sine waves some distant to form at those low hertz, basically killing the whole point to the sub being up front?

Post by **VW337** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:34 pm

I had a pair of 8's in my dash at one time, the sound was great but it just didn't seem to have the overall effect. You would be better off doing a strong pair of mids playing down to ~40hz and allow the really low stuff a bit of expansion room.

Think about it have you even been right on top of bass-bins at a club? You feel it but don't really hear it. You need a bit of travel to really get the impact. If you want your sub to come from there you may wish to raise the back seat a bit and build a wave guide through to your center console.

Post by **bdubs767** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:39 pm

VW337 wrote:I had a pair of 8's in my dash at one time, the sound was great but it just didn't seem to have the overall effect. You would be better off doing a strong pair of mids playing down to ~40hz and allow the really low stuff a bit of expansion room.

Think about it have you even been right on top of bass-bins at a club? You feel it but don't really hear it. You need a bit of travel to really get the impact. If you want your sub to come from there you may wish to raise the back seat a bit and build a wave guide through to your center console.

Errin, I have been looking all over for how to build a wave guide but can't find a damn thing. Any where you can point me too?

My mid according to many can play down to 40hz w/ eqing w/ the natural boast in cars....so Not to worried about that, just the idea of sub in there is cool/ in theory best sound stage. But, I feel what you are saying, I've always had the feeling lower FREQ need space to travel before they can be heard.

HoseHead · Post by **HoseHead** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:35 am

Gotta agree. I don't feel there's a sound benefit. Frequency is too low. It'd make your eyeballs jiggle in their sockets tough.

IMHO - Strong mids would be a better opton.

There's no depth under those full size Chrysler consoles. You'd have a grotesque pimple in the middle of your cockpit. But you can get a decent sized mid/bass into the doors. And an Asian family in the trunk.

My daily is an '02 Concorde Limited. It's getting a sound system in a few weeks. I have the components, I need some personal time. I'm going to keep the factory HU (steering wheel controls, 6 stacker etc.), install an amp (or two), upgrade/add speakers. I'll keep the board posted as it progresses.

If you're bent on the console option, these cars all over the junk yard. You could pick up a console to dick with. It also wouldn't snuff your ride whilst you engineer.

HH

Post by **bdubs767** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:05 am

HoseHead wrote:If you're bent on the console option, these cars all over the junk yard. You could pick up a console to dick with. It also wouldn't snuff your ride whilst you engineer.

HH

thats wouldnt be the idea....but it will probaly not sound right w/ the freq being to low and not being able to develop yet

Wink · Post by **Wink** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:11 am

nice dvd paya..

i want one now..lol

vin78 · Post by **vin78** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:17 am

How about a pair of the Focal 13ks 5 1/2" subwoofers?

http://www.focal-america.com/Products/K ... power.html

I installed a pair behind my g/f's glove compartment, it sounds pretty good.

Post by **VW337** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:28 am

Dubs a guide is just that, you build your enclosure, you then fire it into a tunnel, if the tunnel is smaller than the face of the sub then the sound will be altered and create a bandpass effect, essentially what you want to do is look into a Quarter wave design and play with it a bit. You can also go the route of trial and error by designing your "tunnel" and put a driver mounting point on it in the trunk, then build enclosures to fit to it until you get the sound you want. Keep in mind the phasing will be off so you'll need to compensate for that a bit.

Audiophiliac · Post by **Audiophiliac** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:03 pm

Do what Earl Zausmer did in his BMW. 15s in the fender wells. Booyah!

Post by **Bfowler** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:50 pm

Audiophiliac wrote:Do what Earl Zausmer did in his BMW. 15s in the fender wells. Booyah!

pics demanded!

HoseHead · Post by **HoseHead** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:45 pm

Bfowler wrote:pics demanded!

Yeah. What he said.

HH

Post by **bdubs767** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:50 pm

errin posted it on the SB a while ago

Post by **VW337** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:32 am

http://milbert.com/?s=autos&p=Earl

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2615

The amazing thing is not the fact of 15's in the kicks but the fact he destroyed a set of B&W Nautilus Towers for the front stage.