I will chime in here and say that he has legitimate points, This stuff is not near the same thing as real deadener, first off its not buytl based, which is way better at lowering the resonace of the panel. Also it is not needed to cover the whole thing with deadener, its just a coplete waste of time and money.davewaibel wrote:I should be quiet about this, but feel compelled to jump into the shit storm---ttoc I think your taking things a little personally- the majority of your posts come from the side of 'you guys are doing everything wrong'- if that hurts your feelings then I am sorry- but most of us have a limited amount of time and money to spend on our hobby- a no matter what most of us do, it seems to not be good enough for you- its a fine line we walk on the web- most things are perceived negatively- my system gathered more than its share of negative shit, and I took most of it- but personally I don't really care about someone's opinion about something they havent heard. Iasca, and Usac have pretty much disappeared, and the 2 channel purists out there are getting their asses handed to them by every flashing bauble out there with a video screen and sq that is absolute dog shit- go into 99% of the shops out there and ask for their best SQ deck- you will be pointed to an Imprint Alpine deck, or a pioneer deck that they don't stock-arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrghhhhhh. Their are a few shops in the NW that good audio can be had- one in portland, (500000 people), one in bend (35000), one in salem (50000), wow 3 out of 24 shops- in the guys defense his is trying to keep his vehicle from ringing with out spending 1200 on Dynamat-now aday that about 700 more than most people spend on their complete system- ahhhhhhhhhhhhh- I guess I am done ranting, sorry that its directed at you (ttoc), but most things need to be in perspective, if everything needed to be perfect, no one would ever get their systems done, or would have 20k wrapped up into a 5k car.
Here is something for you to read up on deadening to learn from, http://www.sounddeadenershowdown.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi
Here is a video of what properly applied deadening will do without covering the whole panel:
http://www.sounddeadenershowdown.com/products/cld
scroll down on the right hand side