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Post by cyberpunky »

see Veddys post. I didn't realise about the different connectors. I can't see why you couldn't use that signal but as stated in Veddys post, you will need to set amp to accept the signal from floating ground balanced input. I'm sure one of the gurus here can let you know what specifically is involved in converting lead. IMO you don't really need a TBA or to use balanced signals. I use UTP RCAs and although I cranked signal using Audio control, thats not needed either.

Unless you are running racing spark plug leads, you shouldn't get induced noise in most cars, using unbalanced signals. Balanced lines are used in pro-audio due to a noisy AC environment but are overkill in a 12 V DC situation. A lot of PG fans like overkill though and it sure can't hurt :)
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In theory I can't see why that wouldn't work. You would need to find the pinouts for both sides. But I still don't know if it will work like this, because the receiver side of the TBA-1 has the switch for the choice of common or floating ground. So I'm not too sure in the end you're going to be able to use the transmitter with the ZPA without the receiver. We should keep this thread going with the findings of this endeavour, if you choose to continue...
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Post by exist2serve »

I know the balanced connection isn't needed, I've got 2 PLD's lying around, but I figure it'll look nice and ... well why not?

The pinouts for either side of the cable are in the xbc/blc pdf's, should be relatively straight forward other than the nuisance of making the 6-pin mini-DIN side which will be a first for me.

I'm still confused on this:
The TBA is for providing a balanced signal, but doesn't that mean the receiver should have 1 balanced input and 1 balanced output?

If it goes:
HU (RCA) --> Transmitter (Mini-DIN) --> Receiver
The receiver is left with just RCA's to connect to something.

Or is it simply that I'm missing that only the Transmitter is used if you want to use balanced as an output to something?


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exist2serve wrote:
Or is it simply that I'm missing that only the Transmitter is used if you want to use balanced as an output to something?


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Bingo. If you are sending the signal to a ZPA amp, you only need the transmitter. Or you could run an EQ232 or EQ30 (both have a balanced input output) in between the Tbat and the ZPA.

Also there's a ZPA crossover, ZPX2, that has one balanced input and 3 balanced outputs for running a fully balanced ZPA system. Pretty trick little crossover too.

You'd have a ridiculously awesome system if you had a EQ 232, ZPX2, and 3 ZPA amps. That's my goal one day... :lol:
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Ahh... ok I get it now ^^
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exist2serve wrote:Ahh... ok I get it now ^^
Right on. Where'd you find the new ZPA since the first lead you had fell through, craigslist again?
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rscecil007 wrote:
You'd have a ridiculously awesome system if you had a EQ 232, ZPX2, and 3 ZPA amps.
Edit: I just realized the one drawback to running a system this way is I don't believe there is a way to hook up and use an LPL. None of these components have an LPL input. I think that'd be hard to live without!
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Went through every city on Craigslist searching for "Phoenix Gold", found a guy in Tampa Bay who had one. It's used, and I'm going to have to have it repaired though -.-

I'll be using a BassCube and an external bassknob from my HU. Should be good enough for my uses, as mostly I'll be using it to turn my bass down until I get around to replacing my 10W7 with something a little more precise. Ideally, I'll be switching it to a 12" Morel Ultimo SC.

Once my ZPA gets fixed, and I get it installed my system will look like this:

HU: Alpine CDA-9887 (might switch to Pioneer DEH-P099)
Fronts: Focal 165VR3
Fronts Amp: Butler Tubedriver TD750
Rears: Morel Tempo 5.25 Coax (will change to Morel Integra Ovation XO for ZPA)
Rear Amp: Butler Tubedriver TD750
Sub: 10W7 in sealed box
Sub Amp: Will be 0.3 ZPA
Line drivers; PLD's to both Tubes, TBA to 0.3
Running a 2nd battery Stinger SPV30

Only things that I'll really need to change after that's done, will be changing the fronts to Morel Hybrid Ovations and adding a AudioControl DQXS into the mix.
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Post by ttocs »

You know that the bass cube give you the ability to add some gain to a certain set of frequencies to make them louder, but it doesn't add a knob that will allow you to turn down the overall output of the sub.
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Post by exist2serve »

I know, it's only 0 to +15db or whatever, my other bass knob controls my HU's subwoofer output, which should be adequate for what I intend to use it for.
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