Sneak Peek

Audiophiliac · Post by **Audiophiliac** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:27 pm

Eric D wrote:I'm confused...

Is that endplate on the amp set up so you have to put your mounting screws in on an angle?

I think the slight angle is smart. It will help avoid the dreaded drill grind that people tend to do with amps like M and MS and plenty of others when mounting them without thinking.

You know what I am talking about.

audiophyle_247 · Post by **audiophyle_247** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:53 pm

Also removes the need for mounting feet to stick out past the edges of the amp, making the install cleaner looking.

Post by **mr tibbs** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 6:55 am

The rendering reminds me of an Xbox 360.

I love the look of the tri led's, and the brushed finish. Good work Morgan, thanks for the sneak peeks!!

audiophyle_247 · Post by **audiophyle_247** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:14 pm

Illuminated

lol

MW3 · Post by **MW3** » Sun Nov 22, 2009 5:09 am

joyride wrote:Yup, Def has the constraints/anti aliasing properties of Solidworks. There are no obvious signs of Rhino/3D studio. Im a bit surprised by ProE though. That could be mocked up (design wise) completely in Solidworks. Im thinking the ProE came in later for the tooling side of things. Any idea what PG used to use compared to now? ProE isnt cheap...

Morgan, Im assuming they actually render these (even in photo works). Any chance we could get some of those rather than just the surfacing?

This one was done in solidworks. Its simply a screen capture of the actual mechanical file. The are no pretty rendering or touch ups done to it.

PG has used combination of Inventor, Solidworks and Autocad in the past for designs.

brenzbmr@sb · Post by **brenzbmr@sb** » Sun Nov 22, 2009 1:19 pm

okay i finally can see this now. this is a nice start but my only pet peeve would be as an installer and fabricator i never cared for uneven height on amps...
the pic looks as if the right side of amp is taller and it tapers to the left.

i guess i say even is better, even if it is liek the ms or the zx style its a mirror image from center going outwards. i think thats what killed alotof the apeal of the sd amps...
the awkward angled corners.

well its food for thought and i can w8 to see more pics.

also the tri led thing is cool cause if the newer amps come witht hat then it will match the 5 year old elilte sub...lol

MW3 · Post by **MW3** » Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:54 pm

The top of the amp is flat, except the gentle slope on the front.

Cosmetic is clean but classy similar to original Ti amplifiers.

These amps are not small in size or power. Smallest mono block in this series is 1500 watts, smallest four channel is 100 x 4.

Post by **kg1961** » Sun Nov 22, 2009 5:08 pm

very very nice i can't wait
so does pg need some guys from the cold canadain to try some of these amp out if so im in..... i would love to have some of these new ones and sub/mids/tweeter to try i will pay for it just the chance to try it before it sold to the public would be great. i would like to try ANYTHING LIKE THE TI OR HIGHER
my car is a 2008 acura tl i was going to put the le focal but my love for pg .... let me know
mike

Post by **smgreen20** » Sun Nov 22, 2009 6:17 pm

I like the phase plug in the low end line, but I'm curious to know will it be removable and able to put the tweet in as a coax set up?

I also like the idea of angled screw mounts. Aiming inward will result in a better "grip" holding the amp to the rack, the only real issue I see is that it will be a real PITA to mount two amps side by side against each other.

Smallest 4 ch amp 100 x 4

nice. Will the mono 1500 watt amp be 1500 wrms x1 @ 2 ohms?

Any plans for a 2000 wrms x 1 @ 2 ohms amps?????

That's what I need and I'm waiting specifically for a PG release to get a new amp.

I'm after SQ w/some UMPH so it HAS to deliver.

MW3 · Post by **MW3** » Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:32 pm

Entry line component will not be convertible.

Mounting two amps side by side you will need to leave a little space. Its fairly painless. These are pretty long amps, I don't expect too many to go side by side.

All monoblocks in upper end line make full power into 1 ohm. Still make good power into 2 ohm, but they really want to see 1 ohm load.

dBincognito · Post by **dBincognito** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:19 am

I vote for allen head terminals......4 gauge or larger for + and -

8 gauge terminals for speaker terminals.

and a 10x multiplier

Any ideas on pricing, how big of a price tag difference is to be expected between the current line and the new one ?

Also what kind of pricing is to be expected between the lower end stuff and the upper end stuff ?

Is there a definitive answer on a LE amp/s, if so what kind of price range could be expected for those ?

Will the upper end comps have neodymium magnets ?

Will the x-over's match the amps ?

Is there plans for building a 30/15 band EQ for the new line ?

Smallest 4 channel is 100x4

What's the largest 4 channel

Cosmetic is clean but classy similar to original Ti amplifiers.

Similar to original Ti amplifiers, what exactly does that mean ?

Appearance wise, or are you saying it has a smooth look like the Ti amps did ? You mentioned they were long.......

Post by **Eric D** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:58 am

How much of an angle are the mounting screws at?

I mount ALL of my amps with machine screws and T-nuts. With these on an angle it sounds like my method won't work and I would have to use crappy drywall screws which are not all that secure.

Post by **Bfowler** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:52 am

MW3 wrote: All monoblocks in upper end line make full power into 1 ohm. Still make good power into 2 ohm, but they really want to see 1 ohm load.

what am i to do with my svc 4ohm subs? will there be a fairly large 2 channel that can be bridged (500+) that has an lpl?

Audiophiliac · Post by **Audiophiliac** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:28 pm

Make sure all amps have an LPL and full xover capabilities (HP, LP, BP, Full range).

Post by **ttocs** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:14 pm

Bfowler wrote:
MW3 wrote: All monoblocks in upper end line make full power into 1 ohm. Still make good power into 2 ohm, but they really want to see 1 ohm load.

what am i to do with my svc 4ohm subs??

buy 2 more?

deathcloud · Post by **deathcloud** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:17 pm

these are all great questions guys. I can't wait to see what morgan says.

Post by **smgreen20** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:48 pm

Eric,
I use hex head wood screws to mount my amps. The heads don't break like those of drywalls. Also note that the angle will help, in a sense, clamp into the wood. You'll have two on one side digging in like so-> \ and the other two on the other side like so -> /.

\amp/

See how the angles go inward? I'm not sure if you, or anyone, is understanding what I mean.

MW3 · Post by **MW3** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:47 pm

Eric D wrote:How much of an angle are the mounting screws at?

I mount ALL of my amps with machine screws and T-nuts. With these on an angle it sounds like my method won't work and I would have to use crappy drywall screws which are not all that secure.

The amp is supplied with high quality pan head phillips screws for mounting.

Using your method might or might not be a little complicated, the T-nut probably will need a little angle on it.

MW3 · Post by **MW3** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 7:02 pm

Bfowler wrote:
MW3 wrote: All monoblocks in upper end line make full power into 1 ohm. Still make good power into 2 ohm, but they really want to see 1 ohm load.

what am i to do with my svc 4ohm subs? will there be a fairly large 2 channel that can be bridged (500+) that has an lpl?

Don't worry there are three "affordable" monoblocks that will make 500 watts into 2 ohm that have LPL. One is class a/b, one is class d and one class d that is really small.

Upper end amps still make good power at 2 ohm, but you should run them at 1 ohm to get max power out of the amp.

There are no two channels, before you scream sacrilegious. Two channels sales are non-existent. Also, you can bridge a 4 channel into a larger 2 channel amp.

GX3 · Post by **GX3** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 7:02 pm

MW3 wrote:
The amp is supplied with high quality pan head phillips screws for mounting.
.

Are they Gold??? Like the OS distribution block screws

MW3 · Post by **MW3** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 7:04 pm

Audiophiliac wrote:Make sure all amps have an LPL and full xover capabilities (HP, LP, BP, Full range).

Done all have the above with a few added goodies (strappable monoblocks, signal sensing inputs, etc), but BP is only available on the upper end line.

We will release full model rundown and specs when we get closer to CES.

Post by **kg1961** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 7:10 pm

are any of these ready for sale the day of ces or do we all have to wait 3 month after???? and can we buy them from you to not have to wait for shipping to dealers. also has pg thought of any suppliers in canada?

Mackenzie · Post by **Mackenzie** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 7:15 pm

MW3 wrote:The top of the amp is flat, except the gentle slope on the front.

Cosmetic is clean but classy similar to original Ti amplifiers.

These amps are not small in size or power. Smallest mono block in this series is 1500 watts, smallest four channel is 100 x 4.

Just curious, how many monoblocks will there be, and how many 4 channel amps will there be in this top line?

Post by **fuzzysnuggleduck** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 7:26 pm

So far the features and model lines seems like wise choices and sound product management. Good job, Morgan.

I still want to know just enough about the audio circuitry design and component quality/tolerances to be dangerous in judging the amps. I know I'll probably have to wait until after launch, but it's all good. These questions WILL get answered in time once someone knowledgeable cracks the amps open and takes a peek at the guts.

Post by **Bfowler** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:36 pm

MW3 wrote:
Bfowler wrote:
MW3 wrote: All monoblocks in upper end line make full power into 1 ohm. Still make good power into 2 ohm, but they really want to see 1 ohm load.

what am i to do with my svc 4ohm subs? will there be a fairly large 2 channel that can be bridged (500+) that has an lpl?
Don't worry there are three "affordable" monoblocks that will make 500 watts into 2 ohm that have LPL. One is class a/b, one is class d and one class d that is really small.

Upper end amps still make good power at 2 ohm, but you should run them at 1 ohm to get max power out of the amp.

There are no two channels, before you scream sacrilegious. Two channels sales are non-existent. Also, you can bridge a 4 channel into a larger 2 channel amp.

did you just dodge my question of what to use for decent power on a 4ohm sub?