Phoenix Gold Vs Kenwood
Hmmm.... leave the Kenwood SQ unit where it lies, me thinks.
You'd be better off with a Nak or if you're going old school units, go a 7909/7949/7998 Alpine unit. Tried and proven units, I know that one.
You'd be better off with a Nak or if you're going old school units, go a 7909/7949/7998 Alpine unit. Tried and proven units, I know that one.
-1998 Mazda 929 HC Series 1-
[b]Alpine[/b]- CDA-7998R/CHA-S634/
PXA-H700/MRV-1507 x 3/MRV-F407 x 3
[b]Phoenix Gold[/b]- Xmax 12 x 2/ZPM160 x 4
ZPM100 x 2/ZPT25 x 2/Bass CUBE/DD5
[b]Alpine[/b]- CDA-7998R/CHA-S634/
PXA-H700/MRV-1507 x 3/MRV-F407 x 3
[b]Phoenix Gold[/b]- Xmax 12 x 2/ZPM160 x 4
ZPM100 x 2/ZPT25 x 2/Bass CUBE/DD5
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What dont you understand about me post meng?kg1961 wrote:oldskoolmseriesfan wrote:Kenwood vs PG are you fucking kidding me????
how old is this little girl....I mean friend![]()
when you get yours back, let him hear both, hook one up, give it a listen, and then the other, I gaurantee you he will feel like a TOOL.!
is this post real?????????????????????????????????????
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Square woofers are GAY!!
Square woofers are GAY!!
That's what put me off the Naks too. The 700 has a less than ideal reputation for going wrong. The 500 seems even worse with known software issues. The 300 is not a great SQ unit as it's rather budget. So that just leaves the 400. Which has in built amps that get too hot and can cause issues. But the 400 seems the safest bet. Especially if you can somehow turn off it's amps
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My temporary SQ HU - old school 5v Kenwood KDC-PS905...


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My temporary SQ HU - old school 5v Kenwood KDC-PS905...


i'd still have a cd700 any day of the week, wish i never got rid of mine.. i'm looking for one on the cheap as a little project.
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Outlaw in crate.
2x original shrouded ms2250's.
Route 66 in box + custom m100 to match.
Roadster 66 in flight case
Octane LE in box.
Reactor #186 in flight case.
Reactor EQ232
Ti400.2 AL
AX204A + EQ232 + ZPX2 + TBA set
ZCS6 component set
Tantrum+Titanium bass cubes
Ti12d Elite sub
DD5 + DD10 + 6 Ti blocks!
Kenwood and Kenwood eXcelon are two different things. Every Kenwood deck I have ever tested had a clipped output. Every eXcelon deck did not clip.
Any deck that clips is starting the foundation of your stereo off badly.
Any deck that clips is starting the foundation of your stereo off badly.
Got "schooled" by member shawn k on May 10th, 2011...
No longer really "in tune" with the audio industry, and probably have not been for some time.
Hands down the forum's most ignorant member...
Don't even know what Ohm's law is...
No longer really "in tune" with the audio industry, and probably have not been for some time.
Hands down the forum's most ignorant member...
Don't even know what Ohm's law is...
I am pretty sure every one of them clipped at three notches prior to full. To be safe I would go 5, and set my amp gains to that point. Then be certain to never turn the deck up past that point, as you would be clipping the outputs.
Got "schooled" by member shawn k on May 10th, 2011...
No longer really "in tune" with the audio industry, and probably have not been for some time.
Hands down the forum's most ignorant member...
Don't even know what Ohm's law is...
No longer really "in tune" with the audio industry, and probably have not been for some time.
Hands down the forum's most ignorant member...
Don't even know what Ohm's law is...
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My wife and I both run new Pioneers - the difference being hers is a Premier and mine isnt... her amps are not as nice as mine, her fronts are about equal, she has cheaper interconnects and cheaper speaker wire, but her system sound significantly better (and believe me it frustrates me)Eric D wrote:Kenwood and Kenwood eXcelon are two different things. Every Kenwood deck I have ever tested had a clipped output. Every eXcelon deck did not clip.
Any deck that clips is starting the foundation of your stereo off badly.
I installed both systems... put the same amount of deadening and love/care into the installs ... so I have to believe that the Premiers are similar.
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I set my piece of crap kenwood deck to 3/4 full volume and backed it off another 8 notches just to be safe,My deck is the KDC-4032, it does have some nice features for the price I payed, (210 CAD) but there is no depth or wideness to my sounstage, and now I have real problems, rca grounding issues
after 3 years and I have not changed a thing
sorry guys gotta go its HOCKEY TIME



sorry guys gotta go its HOCKEY TIME



Phorum PI!
Square woofers are GAY!!
Square woofers are GAY!!
Kenwood head units have also been known to scratch the crap out of discs too. The CD laser lens is apparently a harsh one.
-1998 Mazda 929 HC Series 1-
[b]Alpine[/b]- CDA-7998R/CHA-S634/
PXA-H700/MRV-1507 x 3/MRV-F407 x 3
[b]Phoenix Gold[/b]- Xmax 12 x 2/ZPM160 x 4
ZPM100 x 2/ZPT25 x 2/Bass CUBE/DD5
[b]Alpine[/b]- CDA-7998R/CHA-S634/
PXA-H700/MRV-1507 x 3/MRV-F407 x 3
[b]Phoenix Gold[/b]- Xmax 12 x 2/ZPM160 x 4
ZPM100 x 2/ZPT25 x 2/Bass CUBE/DD5
That sounds more like an urban legend to me. I know Kenwood is not perfect, but I have never seen one scratch a CD, and I have worked with MANY of them. Now I have seen decks from all brands scratch CDs in extremely loud systems where the deck skips bad from all the bass, and the owner chose not to mount the deck to anything in the dash, just push it in the hole and call it good.Tiger wrote:Kenwood head units have also been known to scratch the crap out of discs too. The CD laser lens is apparently a harsh one.
Got "schooled" by member shawn k on May 10th, 2011...
No longer really "in tune" with the audio industry, and probably have not been for some time.
Hands down the forum's most ignorant member...
Don't even know what Ohm's law is...
No longer really "in tune" with the audio industry, and probably have not been for some time.
Hands down the forum's most ignorant member...
Don't even know what Ohm's law is...
One of my friends had a setup where he used Kenwood headunit and KEF gear. Got close to 150 out of 2 x 15s in this little Laser hatchback. He swears that the best move he made was ditching the unit. Hence where I got the above quote from.
Back in the day I used an old Kenwood tape deck and stacker. The stacker was very temperamental, so I relied on my tapes! hahaha. Ah well.
I'm very Alpine biased. No dramas with them at all. Been running them for the last 7 years and I probably won't look back. My only change to a non-Alpine main source would be for a Clarion HX-D2 or a Denon DCT-Z1.
But hey, if this unit works, go for it.
Back in the day I used an old Kenwood tape deck and stacker. The stacker was very temperamental, so I relied on my tapes! hahaha. Ah well.
I'm very Alpine biased. No dramas with them at all. Been running them for the last 7 years and I probably won't look back. My only change to a non-Alpine main source would be for a Clarion HX-D2 or a Denon DCT-Z1.
But hey, if this unit works, go for it.
-1998 Mazda 929 HC Series 1-
[b]Alpine[/b]- CDA-7998R/CHA-S634/
PXA-H700/MRV-1507 x 3/MRV-F407 x 3
[b]Phoenix Gold[/b]- Xmax 12 x 2/ZPM160 x 4
ZPM100 x 2/ZPT25 x 2/Bass CUBE/DD5
[b]Alpine[/b]- CDA-7998R/CHA-S634/
PXA-H700/MRV-1507 x 3/MRV-F407 x 3
[b]Phoenix Gold[/b]- Xmax 12 x 2/ZPM160 x 4
ZPM100 x 2/ZPT25 x 2/Bass CUBE/DD5