PG Ti Elite speakers

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Damo95
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Post by Damo95 »

I've decided to stick with my Dynaudio 2 ways..

thanks for the tips & help guys! :)
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Speakers: 3 way front - morel elate9 (in custom doors), Peerless HDS Exlusive 4" midrange (in kicks), Scanspeak 1" illuminator (in custom a-pillars)
Subwoofers: 3x Phoenix Gold Ti2 10d2 (in wheel well enclosure)
PG Ti amps: 2x Ti600.4 (front stage) + Ti2500.1 (sub duties)
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ok... sorry to dredge this back up again... :whistle:

but i've decided to go 3 ways in the new car, a wagon..

sub bass will be provided by an IDMAX12d2 v3 powered off the Tantrum 1200.1..

front stage will be active 3 way, controlled by the famous Alpine H701..

i was originally planning on getting a morel 3 way set, comprising of Elate6, cdm54 & supremo tweeter (not the picollo).. Which i had before and enjoyed (memories of it, altho cant remember the sound - lol)

my mate who owns the PG's is hinting that i get them... so, im back at this crossroad..

if i were to grab his PG Ti Elite Comp 5 and elite 6 midbass, i'd still get the supremo for top end duties..

the final setup would then be:
- Elite6 off T600.4 bridged
- Elite5 off T500.2
- supremo off T300.2

the midbass would need enclosures within the doors which is possible.. and the 5's would be in the kicks, possibly in enclosures as well..

some q's..

- do the midrange need to be on axis or can i mount them flush with the kick panel as such? over here, the driver is on the wrong side of the car, and we have an accelerator pedal in the way..

- what volume enclosures do i need for both the 5 and the 6?

- how would the PG Ti Elite setup compare to the Morel??


any other thoughts?

Thanks guys!!
Damo - Australian member..
Speakers: 3 way front - morel elate9 (in custom doors), Peerless HDS Exlusive 4" midrange (in kicks), Scanspeak 1" illuminator (in custom a-pillars)
Subwoofers: 3x Phoenix Gold Ti2 10d2 (in wheel well enclosure)
PG Ti amps: 2x Ti600.4 (front stage) + Ti2500.1 (sub duties)
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Post by stipud »

If you're going to run active, why tie yourself down to any specific speakers? For example, the Elite 6's aren't fabulous at midbass... you would be better off with a purpose built midbass like this:
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdet ... er=264-874
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdet ... er=264-832

Hell if you're willing to build sealed pods you could even do 6.5" subwoofers pretty easily. One thing i've always wanted to try is a set of ported (to extend the bottom end) 6.5" subwoofers up front, and foregoing the entire subwoofer in the trunk completely.

The PG component set was designed for off-axis performance, though that was mostly tweaked through the crossover. Running active will negate a lot of the hard work the PG engineers did in taming the set. I personally have not been able to get my Elites to sound anywhere near as good when run actively. Sure they get a lot louder, but without the crossover I get wacky hot spots, phase and blending issues that are difficult to tame.

I think running the Elites actively is a bit of a waste. Why buy a set that was engineered for a passive crossover and then remove it? If you want to go active, there are better drivers IMO, like Scanspeak revelators or SEAS Excel for example
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Post by Damo95 »

Very valid points there.. thanks..


The same mate has other "better" speakers to suit active.. including:
- Vifa M18W0-09 6.5" midbass
- Peerless HSD 6.5" woofers (830874)
- Seas L18RNX 6.5" midbass drivers

for me, he has the elate6 & cdm54...
Damo - Australian member..
Speakers: 3 way front - morel elate9 (in custom doors), Peerless HDS Exlusive 4" midrange (in kicks), Scanspeak 1" illuminator (in custom a-pillars)
Subwoofers: 3x Phoenix Gold Ti2 10d2 (in wheel well enclosure)
PG Ti amps: 2x Ti600.4 (front stage) + Ti2500.1 (sub duties)
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Post by Damo95 »

Thinking about this a little further..


I think i'll stick with my morel 3 way... put midbass in doors, and midrange & tweeter up on the a-pillar..



Someone close this thread before i change my mind... please! :-$
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Speakers: 3 way front - morel elate9 (in custom doors), Peerless HDS Exlusive 4" midrange (in kicks), Scanspeak 1" illuminator (in custom a-pillars)
Subwoofers: 3x Phoenix Gold Ti2 10d2 (in wheel well enclosure)
PG Ti amps: 2x Ti600.4 (front stage) + Ti2500.1 (sub duties)
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Post by stipud »

I don't think you could go wrong with that setup at all!
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