What have I got here?

LT4 Hawk 9 · Post by **LT4 Hawk 9** » Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:10 pm

I was told by the seller that this was a PGold custom item, but I can't imagine them turning out a piece that looked like this. It was originally purchased by Bill Bibb, or Superior Sound in Waynesboro, VA for use in his Mercury Sable show car back in the...what, early 90's? It is two smaller MS amps fit into a MS-2125-sized heatsink. This was done so that everything looked like a match in the trunk of the car. The reason I doubt it is a PGold piece is the end plates. One is as it should be, while the other is cut down to fit inside the heatsink rather than up against the end of it. It was then evidently never really attached well at all, just kinda held in there by washers on the screw heads, and by the wiring. I plan to call Mr. Bibb tomorrow and see what he can remember about this one, but I am at least curious as to what model the amps even are. The serial numbers are consecutive if nothing else...241680, and 241681. Anybody got any insight or guesses?

Good end:

Cheezoid end:

valeks1 · Post by **valeks1** » Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:28 pm

Yes Custom build by PG for show 2 MPS2240 in one heatsink.

todd217 · Post by **todd217** » Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:33 pm

if you look at pedi's surfboard (3x mps500) it was not put together perfect either.

tonym · Post by **tonym** » Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:34 pm

valeks1 wrote:Yes Custom build by PG for show 2 MPS2240 in one heatsink.

with the end plate like that?

LT4 Hawk 9 · Post by **LT4 Hawk 9** » Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:38 pm

I think it looks pretty ghetto-fabbed, myself. The end plate was obviously cut after it was painted, or powder coated...whatever. It's bare metal where it was cut down to fit. I don't get why whoever did it didn't just leave that end plate alone, move the second amp down an eighth inch and have it line up and look like it should have. But that's just me.[/b]

Post by **ttocs** » Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:43 pm

there would have been no reason for them to cut an old endplate as it would have been as hard to do that as it would have been to print up a fresh one.

dBincognito · Post by **dBincognito** » Tue Aug 03, 2010 5:02 pm

The extra holes on the heatsink are a dead giveaway that this was a garage job and not done by PG.

LT4 Hawk 9 · Post by **LT4 Hawk 9** » Tue Aug 03, 2010 5:13 pm

I'll argue that point, while I'm still not sure it's legit. If the ones you are talking about are the ones pretty much right between the two boards, they aren't tapped. No threads cut into them, indicating that there have never been any components screwed in there. It certainly wasn't a PG piece taken apart then reassembled with two amps in it, at least.

Post by **Eric D** » Tue Aug 03, 2010 5:14 pm

I don't know, I think that is PG done (mostly). The two spare holes I see are for the thermal sensor. I have seen a lot of MS275s with these holes drilled, and no item installed there. There seem to be no other holes out of place, which would indicate it started from a raw extrusion, not a pre drilled one which was modified.

My only concern is the hack job end plate. That would not have been done by PG.

Post by **mhyde71** » Tue Aug 03, 2010 5:52 pm

ill buy it from you if you are looking to move on with it!

pm sent

matt

tonym · Post by **tonym** » Tue Aug 03, 2010 5:56 pm

mhyde71 wrote:ill buy it from you if you are looking to move on with it!

pm sent

matt

I will be picking up 1 of them ms2125's if that helps you matt...

Post by **mhyde71** » Tue Aug 03, 2010 5:58 pm

okay ^ but im lost- how does that help me? about what we talking about in PM or the acquisition of this 4440??

m

tonym · Post by **tonym** » Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:08 pm

I will be picking up the amp ...wont be shipped...I could pick that up (if he wants to sell) and pack it up for you...and ship...

Post by **mhyde71** » Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:12 pm

tonym wrote:I will be picking up the amp ...wont be shipped...I could pick that up (if he wants to sell) and pack it up for you...and ship...

ah ha i see said blind man!

okay sure that would be great!

BUT TBH not sure yet, and i have made a proposal of sorts regarding it, so i need to see what he has to say..

when are you thinking about making that retrieval?

tonym · Post by **tonym** » Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:13 pm

mhyde71 wrote:
tonym wrote:I will be picking up the amp ...wont be shipped...I could pick that up (if he wants to sell) and pack it up for you...and ship...
ah ha i see said blind man!

okay sure that would be great!

BUT TBH not sure yet, and i have made a proposal of sorts regarding it, so i need to see what he has to say..

when are you thinking about making that retrieval?

Friday....or Saturday

valeks1 · Post by **valeks1** » Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:31 pm

Sorry I didn't see second faceplate. No this is not PG job.

oldschoolfan · Post by **oldschoolfan** » Wed Aug 04, 2010 8:11 am

I bet it started out built correctly with both end plates intact. I agree with the others that mentioned the lack of incorrect holes drilled for another application. I think someone ran into not having enough room with where they wanted to mount it and tried to gain an extra half inch. There is no other reason to cut an end plate that would fit perfectly as designed.

LT4 Hawk 9 · Post by **LT4 Hawk 9** » Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:05 am

That's whjat I'm thinkin. The 2125s only had wiring connections at one end, and I figure that the wiring at the other end of this one made it "not work" without tweaking it a little bit.

I called and left a message for Bill to call me, but they said it would likely be tomorrow before he gets back to me.

brenzbmr@sb · Post by **brenzbmr@sb** » Wed Aug 04, 2010 9:54 pm

i disagree with the statement that pg did this amp.

its inconsistant with what they do, look at the screws on the fets. they are flat tip.
also the endplate on one side is shoved into the heatsink

i believe this was a hack job.

lol

still nice looking amp.