pay the money or walk away---GOT BOTH SET UPs

[kg1961]

hi guys im trading one of my mint jl 15w0 for 2 12W0-4V2 IN A PORTED BOX almost new 8 hours on them »»
would you keep them and use them i heard them sound great but always want more. or spend 500 and get a jl 13w7 in a oem box
i would need to get another amp to run it but its higher end
mike


my amp are audison lrx1.400 and lrx 2.250 and a soundstream tr 700 2 and a 880 2
let me know guy the car is a 2004 civic i want to hit a hard 130db

[kg1961]

i think the 2 12 will work or pay the money change amps ect? worest case sell it:::

[shawn k]

The two W0's should hit 130+ no problem. I've always liked the W0's for their price/performance value, but it's really no comparison when stacking them up against the W7. That's actually a killer price for the 13W7! Especially if it comes with an enclosure as well. The W7 will get you into the 140db range and even sound much much better as well.

[smgreen20]

My SSi's are on their way to you. Those will have no problems reaching 140+. I had them in an SQ setup and was getting 135 out of them. I'm going to miss them.

Get that quote for me yet on how much it's going to cost to send that Clarion sub to me?

[kg1961]

so i picked up both the 2 12" w0v2 almost new in A ported box and the jl 13w7 it not the ae one but still very very nice. to bad the loaded box it has might be to large for the back of my car its 18.25" tall and i have to see what i can do..
i can't wait to try the treos also way to many choices now

[kg1961]

man i have to say the 13w7 is a monster. huge and very cool looking
im going to make a sealed bx for about 1.8cub.
has anyone used they speakers? i only have about 500 rms at 3 ohm but will be gettign another amp and have about 1400rms to put on it
what do you guys think?

[freshkryp69]

so i picked up both the 2 12" w0v2 almost new in A ported box and the jl 13w7 it not the ae one but still very very nice. to bad the loaded box it has might be to large for the back of my car its 18.25" tall and i have to see what i can do..
i can't wait to try the treos also way to many choices now

make the box fit!!!!!

[ROBSCUSTOMSAPK]

I have used many of these subs. Never been impressed with them in a sealed enclosure. Is your Honda a hatch, coupe, or sedan? I have a customer that I built that runs 2 of these in a ported enclosure with an Orion 2500 running them. It does 147+. Decent sound quality but maybe not like your focal stuff. I've always liked the cheaper JL's for sound quality over the w7. But holy sh.t can they move some air.

[kg1961]

car is a sedan 2door. i can make a new box ect no problem and might use 2 audison lrx1.400 or a ti1200 to power it and try it hmmm. i did not like the 12w6v2 i had? no sure why but i loved my 10w7 and all the w0 and w1 sub i have used over the years

[kg1961]

now with this all being said. i was reading allot on Diyma
there are guy with a small car like mine using them in IB set ups
they did it a little differnt than i have seen
the cone is in the trunk with the amp and the the unit is sealed closer to the seats.
this interest me alot as i will not need llot of power and if it sound good why not
i did try 2 ib jl10 before loved them till i put the leather seat on and almost all the sound was gone
If i can get some good sound out of these and still have a trunck this would be great

anyone try this? i have only read about 5 guys doing this On the other forum and they seemed to like it
if not i can alway use or make a box for it

[ttocs]

the difficulty with an IB set up is sealing the trunk off from the cabin and that from what I have found is 2-3x harder then just building a box. And while I know it will only take a second for someone to speak up and say that they are the greatest sounding system, that comes with the find print of "when its done right". I have heard a couple of good sound IB systems but honestly most of the time I got out thinking that while it sounded good I the bass could have been better in one way or another.

I considered doing it myself and when I asked about it to some industry people I trust they said that I better really enjoy it was no better way to make a pair of 12s sound like a good solid 10 with a box. - True story...

[ROBSCUSTOMSAPK]

Totally agree with what ttocs just said. I've done hundreds of freeair setups over the years. Mostly using kicker freeairs and big hoopties. Best benefits to it are pretty good sound and all your trunk space, however, I have seen many broken trunk latches, and metal that the hinges mount to actually break and tear. There is no amount of dynamat that can stop your trunk lid from vibrating if you have big subs and a lot of power. I would advise against it mike, especially if you like your car.lol not to mention, I've never seen a freeair setup that out performed same setup in a properly designed enclosure. Your best bet, imo, is to build a bandpass setup that's ported thru your rear deck. Very tricky but absolutely awesome sound if done right. If not, go for ported box and call it good.

[shawn k]

IB is fantastic! But I agree with ttocs that it really needs to be executed well in order to perform well. It should also be known (probably even more so than with enclosures) what the physical and thermal limits of the drivers will be within the confines of IB installation. Both xmax as well as usable excursion will be reached with less power applied than with "most" other designs that utilize an enclosure. The efficiency of IB is quite nice. Just be aware of the driver's limits!

Here's a little sneak peak of what I've been working on and things to come. This might give you an idea of what's involved when going IB

[kg1961]

looks to hard for me i will stick with sealed or ported

[ttocs]

yea like I said, when properly done... As you see above to really do it right is just a much more labor intesive job then slapping a box together and when your done there is still some praying involved that it will perform. Even an slightly improper box will have some bass to it but an IB that just isn't perfect just has alot of distortion.

[kg1961]

shit for now im going to install the 2 w0 in a ported box it fit right in.
I can mount the amp behind it in a rack and keep everything very clean. when it warms up and if i need more i can always add the 13w7
I stole the speaker and box for only 420cnd so i don't mind playing with it later

[shawn k]

Nice... that's a great price!

[ttocs]

420 huh huh huhuhuhhhhh

[kg1961]

heck i might use it in my home set up and get a huge amp...lol

[ttocs]

Mike - come on man, say with me.

"Hello, my name is Mike, and I am an audio addict. "

Pull up a chair and join the group, been here a while myself ....

[kg1961]

Mike - come on man, say with me.

"Hello, my name is Mike, and I am an audio addict. "

Pull up a chair and join the group, been here a while myself ....

hahaha... my only problem for some reason i like the look of the same amp installed. i have alway been this way. if and when i add the w7 i will need another or a new set of amps. i also have a minty set of treo ssi12.2 coming, have the 2 almost new jl w0 in a ported box that fits great and a 15w0 i was planning on using in my home set up... the focal buti might have a buyer for those... so to many ideas not any time

and WTF is up with shipping cost this year it like a 30% increase

[ttocs]

noticed that it has taken a jump lately myself, so has fuel though...