multi-point grounding kit vs the usual grounding

[eyesofra]

hi guys,
I'm using 0/1 wires all the way from the batt to the distro for audio but never upgraded the big 3 under-hood upgrade.
So this is my next attempt and i came across this multipoint grounding kit at my dealers. Its quite popular here and almost all audio shops offer this.

It a few 4g or 0g wires witha common plate and usually these guys hook up the common plate at the batt -ve and the outgoing 4,5,6 or 7 wires at multiple points.

I've attached a pic - this one is 4 points

Is it good to do multiple grounding points ???

Any real benefits compared to the usual upgrade ?

by the way ,these are what all the adds say on this thing ...

• Improvement of torque • Improvement of the ravine. • Output improvement. • Promotion of complete combustion. • Noise decrease to electronic equipment • Improve fuel economy

[HoseHead]

You can accomplish exactly the same electrically (and I recommend it) with braided strap between your battery, your engine, and your body/frame. This kit is simply ensuring a single point ground is consistent (no resistance) throughout the car, regardless of where the cables are run. Braided strap between the points I mentioned will do the exactly same.

It is NOT a MULTI-POINT GROUND. It is a single point ground with mutliple connection points. A distro block.

IMHO it is simply bling. Looks purdy. All those improvements will occur with any properly grounded vehicle.

HH

[smgreen20]

IMHO it is simply bling. Looks purdy. All those improvements will occur with any properly grounded vehicle.

HH

Yes, but will you ever notice the change? Probably not.

[HoseHead]

Yes, but will you ever notice the change? Probably not.

No difference if your vehicle is properly grounded to begin with.

[brenzbmr@sb]

problem i see is the wires willl be a certain lenght and you wont beable to make it look pretty, i seen cars with that crap in there and the wires are everywhere....

if you just take the time to minimize the different contact points for your ground then it will do the same thing.

i do this

body to battery
battery to alternator ear or the back of alternator period.(ground)

depending on the situation illll run a ground from battey to block(alternator), battery to frame, battery ground to back of car also while im running my power wire.

cant hurt and agaiin your minimizing the different paths it has to take.
the reason i run a ground to the rear is that the car is built in sections wiht spot welds and other joining methods that all add to resistance.
(paint, silicone sealent, undercoating.)
i first did this in the nissan along time ago. it made a big difference.
even off the stock alterntor.

dont forget since your beefing up your grounds to beef up the positive wire from battey to alternator also.

[1moreamp]

I have seen similar kits on E-bay, and they DO WORK. If you have a bad grounding condition under the hood of your car.
It cured a bad engine noise issue a client of mine had, so he did not have to use transformer on his RCAs.

Just like everybody else said before me you can do the same with big gauge wire and a over sized negative terminal on your battery.

Hope that kit did not cost too much. I hear they go for like 18 to 45 USD on e-bay.

I rewired my GM car just for general principals I know they did a minimum gauge wire to reduce vehicle weight ,,, Go figure hey...

[brenzbmr@sb]

all in all if you have bad ground points in your car then yeah it will work
just got to pick your poison.........kit or build one yourself

i just think for alittle less you can do it yourself..then you wont have to mount some ugly distro block and have 5 wires running all over your engine bay.....

besides some of the places i seen grounded by these kits make no sense


more marketing hype if anything else, again i would makemy own and
ground the important parts instead of having wires grounded on the radiator support or some stupid shock tower...

good luck but it wont hurt either way if your system is suffering right now.

[eyesofra]

thanx fer the inputs guys....
i think it does make sense to actually say it will help if the car itself isnt grounded propoerly to begin with....

i think i wanna give it a shot since its quite cheap ...its like 60bucks (MYR )

( the one in the pic does have a 550 malaysian bucks price tag though !maybe made of alien stuff , made in Japan it seems )

one more question guys, running this kit mounted at the batt and throughout the engine bay - will this somehow cause any ground loops and cause issue to the audio since there are multiple ground wires now ???

[1moreamp]

Properly installed this ground setup will make all grounds under your hood appear to be electrically alike and at the same potential. <common grounded>

remember engine noise is just that engine noise it starts at the engine and then gets into your system. Your stereo gear does not make noise normally and so all your noise issue start under the hood. If you can stop noise where it starts and is made then your one giant step ahead on your install.

I recommend these kits when needed to my clients as they usually solve more problems then they create. Its a shame car builder don't agree

[eyesofra]

thanx once more C ..... cant wait to get it done tom ....

[stipud]

Yep... upgrading the engine grounds in my friends 240sx also fixed some idle problems we were having. We just used short pieces of 4 gauge to replace the factory grounds though... nothing as substantial as your kit.

[HoseHead]

240SX? Hope it was a chick.

Yes, grounds are so important for the entire car. All vehicle systems will work as engineered when supplied with a solid 13.2VDC and proper grounding.

Running that kit will ensure proper grounding (dependant upon connection points used within the car), however, a car with currently good grounding will not yield anything. In my view, it's an octopus. The same can be accomplished out of view for a fraction of the cost.

Now if it was employed as a B+ or B- distro block for an amp rack.....

[stipud]

Not a chick, but it is a rightfully manly 240.

http://photo.stipud.com/v/cars/240/

Just did a baseline dyno this weekend... 208hp/198ftlbs at the wheels from a stock tune 4-banger.

Soon we're installing HKS Vpro, electronic boost control, racing suction intake, etc. Also trying to find some R33 Skyline GTR hubs + brakes + rims and suitable coilovers.

[eyesofra]

Yep... upgrading the engine grounds in my friends 240sx also fixed some idle problems we were having. We just used short pieces of 4 gauge to replace the factory grounds though... nothing as substantial as your kit.

many guys who drive the same car as i commented the same thing after doin up these kidda grounding .... engine idling it seems improved and even the AC when turned on, has less of that kick-in effect that usually happens.
Even the headlamps it seems were much stable during music and a little brighter then before the grouding.
Many commented their bass and overall audio improved so much..

so many claims .... well lets c how it goes tom

But the most surprising thing is that after an extensive electrical upgrades for audio and others ,the car has this prob with the headlamp bulbs blowing off very frequently and i thought the wiring somehow got messed up....
when i joined a car forum, i realized many owners of the same car experienced the same problem and almost all of them commented that extra grounding with these kindda kits or just upgrading the existing grounds with 4g wires cures the problem as it has for them....

a link i found on the net.... nice cars with upgraded grounding....
http://www.z-xtreme.com/index.html

[brenzbmr@sb]

thats cool

i just dont see the unessary extra wires every where...
if you do the basics you should be more then fine....