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Post by **bdubs767** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:47 pm

www.zeitgeistmovie.com

1moreamp · Post by **1moreamp** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 10:44 am

Very Good Brandon.
Now your all grown up and really know whats going on. The nausea and craps will go away with time.
You also now know why people own guns, and why people with IQ's over 145 think and feel the way they do and why they are all atheist's......A lot of that movie is true, but truth is a matter of perception more than reality.
Its unfortunate that the same media that lies to us is used to share the polar opposite in the same way.
It kind of leaves you guessing what is real or fiction, eh? Trust this, war is big business, and the people behind it will never be caught. Now thats the real crime against humanity, now isn't it ????

Mastiff · Post by **Mastiff** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:35 am

omg you guys need to stop! whats next? god is dead chants along with black helicopters overhead?

enjoy your time here stop sweeting the small shit...and remember its all small shit.

Post by **bdubs767** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:55 am

Some of that stuff in that video may be far fetched but the last section at least about the banks makes perfect sense. Even though the movie is put together quite well, I intend to check their sources over the next few weeks.

I know it may not be a mass take over of the world, but arent you scared at all mas about the liberties we have given up int he past 5 years?

Post by **stipud** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:01 pm

Brandon, all this school is getting to your head.

Mastiff is right... sit back and smell the flowers for a bit.

It's just human history. There were people like you back then too!

Though this video is one of the better ones I have seen on these topics. I have seen a few that are grand scale apathetic treatments of religion, at least this gets into some of the figurative backgrounds of our history.

Mastiff · Post by **Mastiff** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:04 pm

dude i live my life one day at a time. liberties, you want to defend liberties? go sign up and get to killing and serving some time.

in truth the only libertie you have is wakig up in the morning with your hart still beating......that all any of us ever had to begin with.

Mastiff · Post by **Mastiff** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:11 pm

stipud wrote:Brandon, all this school is getting to your head.

Mastiff is right... sit back and smell the flowers for a bit.

It's just human history. There were people like you back then too!

Though this video is one of the better ones I have seen on these topics. I have seen a few that are grand scale apathetic treatments of religion, at least this gets into some of the figurative backgrounds of our history.

Whoa just hold the fuck on there Canadian snow hippie! You can’t agree with me IT WILL UPSET THE BALENCE!

You keep on this path and POOF there goes the fabric of time and space! You want that on your head? ….didn’t think so ….now take it back!!!

Seriously though just caught me off guard not used to that.

Post by **stipud** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:34 pm

Mastiff wrote:Whoa just hold the fuck on there Canadian snow hippie! You can’t agree with me IT WILL UPSET THE BALENCE!

You keep on this path and POOF there goes the fabric of time and space! You want that on your head? ….didn’t think so ….now take it back!!!

Seriously though just caught me off guard not used to that.

This video states it over and over... history repeats itself. If humanity tried and failed to get over the exact same things happening back then, what makes you think humanity is going to escape it now?

Once you come to terms with that there is no hope, and that humanity is doomed to keep repeating it's history over and over ad absurdum... you can just sit back with your popcorn and enjoy the ride.

Post by **Bfowler** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:57 pm

oh god...
oh allah...
oh tom crusie...

....*pulls tinfoil hat tighter....*

1moreamp · Post by **1moreamp** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:59 pm

Lets all smoke a dube, and listen to Pink Floyd for a while

Thats what we did when we< my age group> saw all this for the first time back in the 60's.

Brandon, your a young man learning about the world it seems. trust me its all ancient history. And life is circular. It does go round and round, just like the planet. thats why your educators try to explain that going around drunk, fat and stupid is no way to live your life.

Sit back smoke something, and have a sip of good wine, and relax. its not your ass they were talking about in that movie. And think about it like this, your just here for the beer, and it will all be OK

Post by **bdubs767** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:16 pm

Theres more to life then that, yes it's fun trust me but I do more then my far share. Im sorry may seem trivial to you all but I can't just sit back anymore. I can't do it.

If you guys think drugs are a release study higher realms of consciousness. Drugs, sex all things of that nature are false way to induce a temp state of a lesser being.

Some books if you guys are truly interested..
The Prophet by Kahil Gibran
A Seperate Reality by Carlos Castaneda
Journey to IXtland by Carlos Castaneda
Cosmic Consciousness
Gnostic Scripture
The Orginal Kabhal not Holy Wood's version
Thoreua, emreson's works
Siddartha by Herman Hesse
Snow Goose
Study taoism
THe list can go one but I suggest reading primal Scream first by Janov

Post by **Bfowler** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:20 pm

they arent suggesting them so much as a releise...its just that you are starting down to road to crazness. the answers you seek have no "solid" answers and searching to hard for them will make you nuts. at least for me in my brief experaince. i found it no worth worring too much about becasue you can't really reach a solid answer.

Post by **bdubs767** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:25 pm

Bfowler wrote:they arent suggesting them so much as a releise...its just that you are starting down to road to crazness. the answers you seek have no "solid" answers and searching to hard for them will make you nuts. at least for me in my brief experaince. i found it no worth worring too much about becasue you can't really reach a solid answer.

read into anything I posted above you will find truths inbetween them, spiritual not political.

Post by **Francious70** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:19 pm

What life all boils down to is who is a shark, and who is a sheep.

Post by **fuzzysnuggleduck** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:12 pm

bdubs767 wrote:read into anything I posted above you will find truths inbetween them, spiritual not political.

Spiritual truths are relative and subjective.

For me, not having the answer is the answer.

For me, drugs aren't an escape from life or a method to "deal" with life's problems and issues, it's a tool for getting a different perspective on things. Mushrooms gave me some of the most interesting and obscure views of things and I think that only makes me stronger and helps me in my understanding of myself and the things around me.

Sure, I use them for recreation as well but like many other things in life, they serve more than one purpose

I like philosophy, quite a lot actually, but if you read that stuff and agree with it 100% of the time, you're not learning anything, just assuming the beliefs and assertions of others. I've never read a piece of philosophy where I didn't, at least at one point or another, personally disagree with some of the assumptions, methods and conclusions. But I still think it made me a stronger and person, even if I didn't believe everything I read.

Post by **bdubs767** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:29 pm

I dont agree w/ everything in those books, not even close. For instance Carlos Castaneda is a retard, I onyl recommend those books to get an insight into his mentor. I meant to articulate that you can IMO and others, you find a truths through connections that a striking similar between the parts or similar ideals held within each writing.

Mastiff · Post by **Mastiff** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:58 pm

Brandon.... surender....once you give up your cares and worries youcan be truly free.

1moreamp · Post by **1moreamp** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:19 pm

Brandon, I have two buddies that went to Nam. One left a part of right chest over there, and the other never fired a shot < Air Force>. Both of them talked about and said the same thing that clip did. So its all old news my friend.
I suggest you watch the movie "Why We Fight", it would go well with your posted clip. It agrees with your clip about the last 6 wars. One thing for sure, no matter what people do, good or bad, someone, somewhere makes a buck off of it.
It's nice to see that your conscience is alive and well. I get that from your post and rants. But, your not in charge, and your not going to change the way things are being done. One thing you should remember is that the history books will only reflect what the victor has to say about it. If your a pacifist then the things your head are absorbing right now will cause you great anguish. But I believe you will work your way through it, in time.

My suggestions about weed and wine are based on their calming properties not hippy weirdness

I wasn't picking on you my friend, just letting you know we have all been where your at, at some point in all of our lives. Gaining wisdom can get really disturbing, especially if you let it get to your head real bad. And if it bothers you that a few people are gambling with everybody else's life and happiness then "Welcome to the Machine". < Pink Floyd again

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You love music, then I suggest you get some Lennon thinking going on. And I don't mean the Soviet Lennon. I mean John Lennon. May I suggest you get and listen to a song call "Imagine" all the people" by John Lennon. Its old like me, but thats the way things were even back then. So maybe what seems new <to you> will feel a little bit more comfortable after you see its nothing new even way back in the 1960's.
Thats 40 years ago, and its still the same story. Time changes, but people for the most part stay the same....

History repeats itself on a regular basis, thats why historians preach prevention through historical wisdom. Hitler killed Jews, and in our time line the Serbs and the Croates went at it, trying to kill one another off. Genocide has no end it seems, at least not in my lifetime.

Be wise, Pick your battles carefully, and don't pull on Superman's cape

twisted · Post by **twisted** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:36 pm

1moreamp wrote:Brandon, I have two buddies that went to Nam. One left a part of right chest over there, and the other never fired a shot < Air Force>. Both of them talked about and said the same thing that clip did. So its all old news my friend.

its funny you mention that C, that same stuff is what i grew up listening too, from my father, uncle, and may fathers friends

brandon,
you also must think that the vast majority of poeple are not that stupid as to let some of the things happen that that video says are going to happen. people will stand up eventually and disagree with what they are being told to do and think,then the cycle of history will start over again.

on a side note,
i for one will never be micro chipped unless i dont know it, and neither will my children.

Post by **bdubs767** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:48 pm

twisted wrote: brandon,
you also must think that the vast majority of poeple are not that stupid as to let some of the things happen that that video says are going to happen. people will stand up eventually and disagree with what they are being told to do and think,then the cycle of history will start over again.

Two question and I guess I can let these threads die for now why I struggle with these issues on my own.

1.) Twisted what you speak of sounds like what Karl Marx predict would happen...So is he right? Is his ideals that only one that can work?

2.)Why can't we break this cycle? Stop this non sense and act as a intelligent species that we are instead of crazyed pact of dogs? One answer EGO. Mans ego is the root of evil. It fuels everything thats wrong with the world, does it not?

1moreamp · Post by **1moreamp** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:49 pm

on a side note,
i for one will never be micro chipped unless i dont know it, and neither will my children. Twisted Evil

Speaking of that, you do have a cell phone don't you ??? Then you don't need a chip. they already know exactly where you are. All cell phones work like GPS with the Cell towers, all they need is your cell number....Got you thinking now , don't I. The inventor of the technology for cell phone tracking was a local engineer out here in the valley. That technology is 10 years old and mandatory with all digital phones. Thats why analogue phones don't work any longer, and neither does the original 5 years of On-Star. < there were using analogue technology and thats dead now, by federal decree.

Yes Sir, I used to tell my friends years ago that had those giant cell phones <why not just use a flare gun> its about the same if they want to know where you are........Big Brother always there and watching ooohhhh

twisted · Post by **twisted** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 8:02 pm

bdubs767 wrote: Two question and I guess I can let these threads die for now why I struggle with these issues on my own.

1.) Twisted what you speak of sounds like what Karl Marx predict would happen...So is he right? Is his ideals that only one that can work?

2.)Why can't we break this cycle? Stop this non sense and act as a intelligent species that we are instead of crazyed pact of dogs? One answer EGO. Mans ego is the root of evil. It fuels everything thats wrong with the world, does it not?

question 1.....trust in the malitia (remember the constitution)

question 2 i cant awnser that for you, the only thin i can say about it is with large amounts of wealth come stupidity and greed (also part of the roots of evil). greed controls alot of the wrong doings of mankind and every body on this planet is susceptible to it! greed drives man to money and power when that is all one cares about they act stupidly and careless.

twisted · Post by **twisted** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 8:03 pm

1moreamp wrote:
on a side note,
i for one will never be micro chipped unless i dont know it, and neither will my children. Twisted Evil

Speaking of that, you do have a cell phone don't you ??? Then you don't need a chip. they already know exactly where you are. All cell phones work like GPS with the Cell towers, all they need is your cell number....Got you thinking now , don't I. The inventor of the technology for cell phone tracking was a local engineer out here in the valley. That technology is 10 years old and mandatory with all digital phones. Thats why analogue phones don't work any longer, and neither does the original 5 years of On-Star. < there were using analogue technology and thats dead now, by federal decree.

Yes Sir, I used to tell my friends years ago that had those giant cell phones <why not just use a flare gun> its about the same if they want to know where you are........Big Brother always there and watching ooohhhh

but a cell phone can easily be shead or planted

Post by **bdubs767** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 8:17 pm

twisted wrote:
question 1.....trust in the malitia (remember the constitution)

That didnt answer tho if marx is right? Second the militia is controlled by congress via the US Constitution

twisted wrote:question 2 i cant awnser that for you, the only thin i can say about it is with large amounts of wealth come stupidity and greed (also part of the roots of evil). greed controls alot of the wrong doings of mankind and every body on this planet is susceptible to it! greed drives man to money and power when that is all one cares about they act stupidly and careless.

Ego, greed all of the same "beast"...Ego creates greed.

Post by **fuzzysnuggleduck** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:13 pm

bdubs767 wrote:I dont agree w/ everything in those books, not even close. For instance Carlos Castaneda is a retard, I onyl recommend those books to get an insight into his mentor. I meant to articulate that you can IMO and others, you find a truths through connections that a striking similar between the parts or similar ideals held within each writing.

I wasn't suggesting that you do agree with everything, I was simply stating my opinion. Although, I must say I'm glad you feel this way