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i don't like #1. lobbyist groups purpose is to make a voice for groups of people who's voice would otherwise be drowned out. i agree that reform is needed, but i don't like that idea.

5: i'm pretty anti-federal reserve all together

6: not necessary. the technology is already in place. auto makers see no reason to roll out the vehicles while they are making money on normal gas vehicles.
7: don't really like any of those organizations. especially NAFTA
8: i guess I'm sort of an isolationist. globalization isn't something I'm terribly interested in doing. i think that is what helped get us into the mess we are in now.

9. i do like this idea, but i think bribing them with food is a better idea then attacking and bribing them with weapons. ON A SIMILER NOTE. Canada has large oil reserves and is much closer...we should invade them instead.

10 is just ridiculous all together.

11: no way we can remove the gangs in power without insane costs. (life and $) just let them at each others throats and eventually a group will arise victorious and create some sort of fairly stable government. this is no different then the feuding tribes in early Europe.

so i guess to play into your question..no, i would not vote for that candidate
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i don't like #1. lobbyist groups purpose is to make a voice for groups of people who's voice would otherwise be drowned out. i agree that reform is needed, but i don't like that idea.

5: i'm pretty anti-federal reserve all together

6: not necessary. the technology is already in place. auto makers see no reason to roll out the vehicles while they are making money on normal gas vehicles.
7: don't really like any of those organizations. especially NAFTA
8: i guess I'm sort of an isolationist. globalization isn't something I'm terribly interested in doing. i think that is what helped get us into the mess we are in now.

9. i do like this idea, but i think bribing them with food is a better idea then attacking and bribing them with weapons. ON A SIMILER NOTE. Canada has large oil reserves and is much closer...we should invade them instead.

10 is just ridiculous all together.

11: no way we can remove the gangs in power without insane costs. (life and $) just let them at each others throats and eventually a group will arise victorious and create some sort of fairly stable government. this is no different then the feuding tribes in early Europe.

so i guess to play into your question..no, i would not vote for that candidate

why do i get the feeling a GWB bash is in the mail....
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Are you just leaving our or are you okay with the current tax system? High death tax, high taxes for those who have earn it, etc?
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Sorry Brandon, I would not vote for that candidate
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Well issue # 1 the reasoning behind that, is to give ever person a equal say in the political campaigns. You and I will have the same amount of power as multi billion dollar corporations. Foreign Investment is far to high in the country and does nothing for us besides raise our national debt. Well actually it raises the value of our dollar, but that causes a trade debt.


The technology is not in place and ready to be produced quite yet for alter. fuel source. If issues #1 was put into place it would be far easier to to pus legislation through allowing for these alternative fuel sources to hit the market as soon as possible. If we do find an alternative fuel source, we also dont have to worry about the Arab countries we can just leave, and never have to deal with them again.

As for Globelazation, it is a by product of free markets world-wide, and in theory it makes sense. Why would you go to war with countries and other nations you are profiting from and are profiting from you? Yes I know the radical arabs do not agree but they are .01 % of the Arab nations. I would prefer to leave them alone, but until we find an alternative fuel source we have to try to do something over there. Blowing the area to hell isnt, IMO is an awful option. Fowler is right imagine if we spent 500 billion on giving them food and goodies instead of blowing them to shit...they'd f'ing Love us and would kill the terrorist for us.

As for the Africa thing, that was added because I feel if we spend 500 billion in Iraq to take out a leader there who had zero to do w/ terrorism, we should be more worried about the awful conditions in Africa. Never would I recommend the troops to go in there.

As for taxes not sure where I stand. I would love to cut them all take on a Milton Friedman ideology only have the gover. tax for defense, law keeping, and creating/up keeping infurstructer. Yet, the nation is in massive debt. and cutting taxes to the max will not fix that problem. I would create a tax cut program that benefited the middle class more the the higher class, this would also help bump the economy.


What do you guy look for in your politics?

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fiscal conservatives. everything else is a pretty secondary trait to me. i don't car about death penalty/abortion stance etc very much.

border control would be a close 2nd.
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Alternative fuel not in place? Well you see here Dubs, in the early 90's an Australian scientist produced a 48 cylinder 2 cycle motor which ran on water. There was a collection unit which successfully separated and recovered the oxygen and hydrogen molecules, the exhaust was pure oxygen. His design was purchased by GM and patented, he left Australia for the US with his plans. He has never been heard of again, nor has GM ever spoke of the design but they keep updating the patent rights....... The damn thing was estimated at ~225 BHP and would provide ~80mpg in a 3200lb vehicle.


I say globalization is not the answer, the world hates us already, we need to try to focus for once on our own people instead of third world countries or countries with oil. The moose be damned we need to produce our own oil from Alaska which has far more oil under it than the entire middle east, while we're at it lets screw up the landscape in Texas too. The US is globalized way too much already, we need to bring production of goods back to the US, this will correct the economy by bringing jobs back to the under achievers as well as lower our trade deficits. The laborers will then have money to spend and the already employed will no longer be paying their welfare.


The Fed needs to go before any economic changes happen, the gold standard would need to be reinstated after this. This would mean we be on the same playing field as all the major economies around the world.

Imigration, welfare, medical, taxes social security, all need a serious about face, don't keep that off your ballot.
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^bmw has had working hydrogen cars for over 5 years also

countless electric motor designers have been bought up by GM and others.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_EV1

i personal know a man who was able to tune and alter a Chevy 305 carburetor to get 75 Hwy miles. GM paid him 100k for his carburetor design and that was that.

the technology IS in place.
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not to mix politics with fun, but lookit the dude on the left, uh, literally and figuratively... he really gets it.
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lets try again...
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Pardon my Canadianism, but is it sacrilege to not put your hand over your heart in front of flags? :?
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I don't think the others noticed the flag and just stood there, hand over heart for half an hour, hoping reporters would make Barak look bad.

When the national anthem is playing or you are saying the pledge to the flag, you salute or put your hand over your heart. So sacrilege is a bit harsh of a word since it isn't a religious ceremony, how about "ignorant" or "out of touch" or "not brimming with patriotism".

I just think the picture is funny since he clearly got caught out. I am sure he's an A-1, normal guy and put his hand up as soon as he heard the music. After all his middle name is Hussein, a staunch nationalist type of name.

Perhaps this resonates with his fans "Hey man, I ain't saluting no flag, specially not the Amerikkkan flag."? I mean, a non-patriotic president is what every country needs, eh?

Don't take it personal, it's just a funny picture. Kinda like a priceless moment.
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Hilary is the main sacrilegious thing i see on that stage. she is the incarnation of Satan
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I think she just might be a fem-bot that Bill missed the machine gun jublees on.....
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Here's another one about that fun guy Hussein Obama. This picture was taken in his Houston campaign office. I know he can't be everywhere at once, yet, but he might want to put the word out that Che Guevara flags are not the flag of America, yet. Not quite sacrilige, more like disdain.
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The peace sign also isn't the flag of America...

America needs a secondary flag with a huge dick and a dollar sign.
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Flag makeover!

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I don't mind the peace sign. Nobody's ever been rounded up and shot for the peace flag.

Obama could start a new trend, though. You have to break eggs to make an omlette, and maybe peace will require that.

Here's a couple of inspirational quotes from Che (clearly a man of peace):

"I don't need proof to execute a man, I only need proof that it's necessary to execute him." "Certainly we execute," boasted Che at the UN General Assembly in 1964, "and we will continue executing as long as it is necessary."
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