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wtf fuck is wrong w/ the democrats

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letting hillary run :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: way to throw another election.


Unless Bill is allowed to take over for her I may have to vote for mcain :roll: :roll:
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Say wah?

Fill me in... I don't have TV anymore, so I haven't had US politics forcefed to me in months.
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stipud wrote:Say wah?

Fill me in... I don't have TV anymore, so I haven't had US politics force fed to me in months.
shes the front runner for democrats...and out on campaign trail...it's painful watching her.


I may write in Kieth Olberman for President. You need tv back to watch that show, hes fing great.
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....i dont even need to jump in here....almost everything is wrong with democrats.



fuck...they have already raised the minimum wage....
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Errin in "08", hell I'm writing myself in.


If you guys want I'll put together a semi-formal game-plan and let you spam everybody you know with it, I'll need a VP though.
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yep democrats with thier liberal lets save someone with a new program will be our downfall
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Errin and Mastiff in "08".....................? I think they would hesitate killing me off in fear of having Mastiff step up..... :lol:
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both parties are terrible now a days to be honest. Even though I feel the republicans are the worser of the two w/ their terrible international agenda.

We need a new party, that actually can live on IMHO
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Bfowler wrote:fuck...they have already raised the minimum wage....
IMO a good thing...but Im sure you'll argue against from an economic perspective.
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bdubs767 wrote:
Bfowler wrote:fuck...they have already raised the minimum wage....
IMO a good thing...but Im sure you'll argue against from an economic perspective.
Good thing? Fuck off, my wages didn't go up accordingly did yours? But wait it's just for the burger flippers whats it matter..........umm prices on day to day stuff have to go up to cover the added quarter an hour for the shitty service you get when you go to wal-mart/blockbuster/tacobell/corner-store now. It's the same thing as raising gas prices, it may be $0.10 a gallon now but it may be $0.50 a gallon on your milk tomorrow.
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bdubs767 wrote:
Bfowler wrote:fuck...they have already raised the minimum wage....
IMO a good thing...but Im sure you'll argue against from an economic perspective.
Good thing? Fuck off, my wages didn't go up accordingly did yours? But wait it's just for the burger flippers whats it matter..........umm prices on day to day stuff have to go up to cover the added quarter an hour for the shitty service you get when you go to wal-mart/blockbuster/tacobell/corner-store now. It's the same thing as raising gas prices, it may be $0.10 a gallon now but it may be $0.50 a gallon on your milk tomorrow.
but I see things from the perspective of the greater humanistic view.

So we spend an extra $20 a week...

Living on the old min. wages is impossible. Yes most people who are in those situations did it to themselves, but the same will happen to their children, and their children ect. it's a cycle IMO the needs to be changed some how and raising the min. wage is a start.


But that leads to another thing PEOPLE NEED TO STOP HAVING KIDS. TO MANY PEOPLE AROUND AS IT is now. We should do what china did....no more then two kids or taxed to hell.
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Exactly what errin said. My buying power just went down. Do you think owners of business that pay minimum wage are just going to take that finacial hit? They are going to raise their prices accordingly to keep their bottom line the same


I agree the the quality of life needs to go up for lower income familys, but raising the minium wage is treating the symptom (in a VERY temporay way), and because prices go up proportional to the minimum wage, the familys that rely on that income arent any better off. The only thing that changes is now i essentially make less money
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Bfowler wrote:Exactly what errin said. My buying power just went down. Do you think owners of business that pay minimum wage are just going to take that finacial hit? They are going to raise their prices accordingly to keep their bottom line the same


I agree the the quality of life needs to go up for lower income familys, but raising the minium wage is treating the symptom (in a VERY temporay way), and because prices go up proportional to the minimum wage, the familys that rely on that income arent any better off. The only thing that changes is now i essentially make less money
True, very true....then since the democrats are in office now and love to use govts powers.... slap down restrictions on the BIG INDUSTRY business to prevent the raise in their prices. I know the big compaines can handle it...
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VW337 wrote:Errin and Mastiff in "08".....................? I think they would hesitate killing me off in fear of having Mastiff step up..... :lol:

I will never run for an office due in part to my extreme need for privacy alonge with my past life events.

bdubs767 wrote: We need a new party, that actually can live on IMHO

agreed somewhere between liberal democrats and the Nazi parties. Ideally one that would cut off trade with nations such as china while at the same time take care of business in the middle east, e.g. kill who and what you have too then leave never to come back.
We need to stop saving the planet and start saving ourselves, reinforce our borders with DMZ like security no one in with out an invite.
We need a party that will increase our military while keeping it here. We need to be that bad ass that just sits and waits for the next attack ready to eliminate any threat.

In short we need to stop being so dam caring about the rest of the world fuckem letem rot!
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Yes!!!

Errin and mastiff have my vote
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bdubs767 wrote:
Bfowler wrote:Exactly what errin said. My buying power just went down. Do you think owners of business that pay minimum wage are just going to take that finacial hit? They are going to raise their prices accordingly to keep their bottom line the same


I agree the the quality of life needs to go up for lower income familys, but raising the minium wage is treating the symptom (in a VERY temporay way), and because prices go up proportional to the minimum wage, the familys that rely on that income arent any better off. The only thing that changes is now i essentially make less money
True, very true....then since the democrats are in office now and love to use govts powers.... slap down restrictions on the BIG INDUSTRY business to prevent the raise in their prices. I know the big compaines can handle it...
No, why target big industry they are the ones making money and creating jobs, target the government and publicly funded jobs first. Set that on a locked 10 year plan, no wage increases. Discontinue payroll/funding for redundant positions, In Oregon there is a commissioner for Cherries and commissioner for apples, a commissioner for pears...........etc how tough is it for one person to oversee all of the tree born fruits? Make publicly funded positions tax exempt and cut their pay by the appropriate 30-33% or what ever the equivalent taxes are, they are funded by taxes why pay them back? If the US were to start doing this there would be no reason to raise wages of taxes as everybody would see a tax cut across the board which would equate to a huge increase in take home monies, in turn increasing spending and driving businesses and the economy..............

The government needs reform not more pocket oriented politicians there for personal gain, shit it all started as a civil duty not as a career to strive for or to retire from.
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Mastiff wrote:
VW337 wrote:Errin and Mastiff in "08".....................? I think they would hesitate killing me off in fear of having Mastiff step up..... :lol:

I will never run for an office due in part to my extreme need for privacy alonge with my past life events.

bdubs767 wrote: We need a new party, that actually can live on IMHO

agreed somewhere between liberal democrats and the Nazi parties. Ideally one that would cut off trade with nations such as china while at the same time take care of business in the middle east, e.g. kill who and what you have too then leave never to come back.
We need to stop saving the planet and start saving ourselves, reinforce our borders with DMZ like security no one in with out an invite.
We need a party that will increase our military while keeping it here. We need to be that bad ass that just sits and waits for the next attack ready to eliminate any threat.

In short we need to stop being so dam caring about the rest of the world fuckem letem rot!

couldnt agree more...if we pull out of SAVING EVERYONE in the world. The
terrorists wouldn't car about us...something no one understands. Stop supporting Isreal would help too, which should be done now. Isreal why o why do we support them.

How can we save the world, when we have more problems on the home front? Lets get our selfs in tip top shape before we go saving the world.

SPEND THE 500 billion here in the stated instead of on the war...IM SURE WE ALL WOULD LIKE THAT.
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bdubs767 wrote:
VW337 wrote:
bdubs767 wrote: IMO a good thing...but Im sure you'll argue against from an economic perspective.
Good thing? Fuck off, my wages didn't go up accordingly did yours? But wait it's just for the burger flippers whats it matter..........umm prices on day to day stuff have to go up to cover the added quarter an hour for the shitty service you get when you go to wal-mart/blockbuster/tacobell/corner-store now. It's the same thing as raising gas prices, it may be $0.10 a gallon now but it may be $0.50 a gallon on your milk tomorrow.
Living on the old min. wages is impossible. Yes most people who are in those situations did it to themselves, but the same will happen to their children, and their children ect. it's a cycle IMO the needs to be changed some how and raising the min. wage is a start.
Maybe if people gave a shit nowadays and quit living off our gov't handouts then maybe they would get off their ass to better themselves. It's not that hard to get your GED. Plus, there's a reason 75% of the employee's working in places that pay minimum wage are in High School.
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fuck politics.
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Some dumb cunt.
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Unfortunately they're a necessary evil. Chaos created government.
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ydnap wrote:fuck politics.

If it weren't for politics you wouldn't be living in this country, as all the prude bitches got on a boat to come here, and set up house and home with an agenda and certain censorships in mind while preaching free speech.
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holy piss Im going to start campaigning for keith olberman...hes the man
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