Toyota, honda, and What? Best quality cars

Post by **Rold Gold** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:15 am

I wasn't saying buy a NEW car and mod the shit out of it cuz thats just stupid. I meant that if you put that $$$ difference into the suby it would dominate. TRUE is yer statement about target consumers. I think that Subaru has found it's niche with the Legacy GT. It has the hp, handleing and comfort of a much more expensive comparable car. Euro editions are what the car companies designed the car to be but for for some odd reason they restict the shit out of em here. The GTO here and the Austrailian GTO is way different. Hell, the Focus SVT isn't even as built as the euro edition.

I can't wait to see the GTR does here. Although at a base of $60k, there isn't much domestic in that $$ range.

Post by **stipud** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:22 am

FuzzyHoNutz wrote:I can't wait to see the GTR does here. Although at a base of $60k, there isn't much domestic in that $$ range.

If you could find a GTR at MSRP, it would be unstoppable. Unfortunately the things are extremely rare, demands are sky high, and the production line is very slow. As such, you must expect to pay at least $20k over MSRP to get one any time soon. Apparently the things are a dog for service costs as well, though that's not normally something a person who buys a Skyline would care about anyways.

Post by **Rold Gold** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:34 am

I remember hearing that the ENZO's basic maintainance was like $20k.

A muffler for the damn thing was like $15K also.

There is only 2 domestics that I'd buy.(saying I had the $$$) The SUPER BEE Charger and the HEMI 300M. I love the look of the 300 on 22's.

Mackenzie · Post by **Mackenzie** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:54 am

stipud wrote:
FuzzyHoNutz wrote:I can't wait to see the GTR does here. Although at a base of $60k, there isn't much domestic in that $$ range.
If you could find a GTR at MSRP, it would be unstoppable. Unfortunately the things are extremely rare, demands are sky high, and the production line is very slow. As such, you must expect to pay at least $20k over MSRP to get one any time soon. Apparently the things are a dog for service costs as well, though that's not normally something a person who buys a Skyline would care about anyways.

The gtr is nice. Unstopable, nah.. the z06 corvette is slightly quicker in the quartermile, but the gtr is slghtly quicker in a curvy track. Also keep in mind that the chevy is n/a With a turbo, or sc, it would get quite ugly

Their is always something out there bigger and badder. Here is the new saleen

http://www.mustangevolution.com/2008-sa ... e-mustang/

video
http://youtube.com/watch?v=JMDmpgrFsdA

Mackenzie · Post by **Mackenzie** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:08 am

Back to the subject of the 30k region, the pontiac g8 will run circles around the gt, and the wrx. Not so sure about on a curvy track, but I must admit the new g8 is a beast for the price..

Post by **stipud** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:24 am

Mackenzie wrote:The gtr is nice. Unstopable, nah.. the z06 corvette is slightly quicker in the quartermile, but the gtr is slghtly quicker in a curvy track. Also keep in mind that the chevy is n/a With a turbo, or sc, it would get quite ugly Their is always something out there bigger and badder. Here is the new saleen

http://www.mustangevolution.com/2008-sa ... e-mustang/

video
http://youtube.com/watch?v=JMDmpgrFsdA

The Z06 and GTR post pretty much the same straight line and 1/4 mile numbers. I wouldn't say there's any winner between the two. As for "slightly quicker" on a curvy track, R&T got 5 seconds difference at Buttonwillow. 5 seconds is a COLOSSAL difference in one lap.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=AX6T39GV8Cg

http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=22031

Post by **stipud** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:24 am

Mackenzie wrote:Back to the subject of the 30k region, the pontiac g8 will run circles around the gt, and the wrx. Not so sure about on a curvy track, but I must admit the new g8 is a beast for the price..

I'll hold my breath for a Manual version. Until then, it's not a driver's car.

Post by **Rold Gold** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:44 am

AMEN BROTHER............

brenzbmr@sb · Post by **brenzbmr@sb** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:45 pm

toyota camry 2008 se dumped on bags with 19 inch rims

white in color and black rims with chrome lip.

black sports grille and black headlight housings.

paint the tails black...........

oh crap im rambling

i am partial to toyota but i like mazda car(my protoge has been really good to me)

but the ford edge looks nice.

nutxo · Post by **nutxo** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:22 pm

Plain and simple. All newish cars look alike for the most part. Old school was just better.

Argue that and Ill ask ya wtf youre doin on the phorum

Post by **fuzzysnuggleduck** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:31 pm

nutxo wrote:Plain and simple. All newish cars look alike for the most part. Old school was just better.

Argue that and Ill ask ya wtf youre doin on the phorum

What about the new American cars that are pretending to be classic American cars?

nutxo · Post by **nutxo** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:50 pm

fuzzysnuggleduck wrote:
nutxo wrote:Plain and simple. All newish cars look alike for the most part. Old school was just better.

Argue that and Ill ask ya wtf youre doin on the phorum
What about the new American cars that are pretending to be classic American cars?

Dunno man. I do know that top gear picked the Z06 as car of the year last year I think. It beat out the real shit. They have access to the finest vehicles in the world.

The new camaros gonna be a fucking beast. Hell mines no slouch compared to 90% of the cars on the road and I still get 28mpg on the freeway.

Japanese cars and low end american cars all look alike. They have no character and all the fart cans, stickers and gay ass wings cant change the fact the a civic is a civic and a focus is a focus.

Mackenzie · Post by **Mackenzie** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:04 pm

The only american car the guy from top gear owns is the ford gt.. He didnt like the zo6 to much, as it couldnt handle like some of the other cars..

zo6
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8tztm9dLyY4&feature=related

Gt

http://youtube.com/watch?v=g4N1vyOxKXM

Post by **Rold Gold** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:54 pm

nutxo wrote:
fuzzysnuggleduck wrote:
nutxo wrote:Plain and simple. All newish cars look alike for the most part. Old school was just better.

Argue that and Ill ask ya wtf youre doin on the phorum
What about the new American cars that are pretending to be classic American cars?

Dunno man. I do know that top gear picked the Z06 as car of the year last year I think. It beat out the real shit. They have access to the finest vehicles in the world.

The new camaros gonna be a fucking beast. Hell mines no slouch compared to 90% of the cars on the road and I still get 28mpg on the freeway.

Japanese cars and low end american cars all look alike. They have no character and all the fart cans, stickers and gay ass wings cant change the fact the a civic is a civic and a focus is a focus.

TG's 2007' COTY was the Legacy Outback. Not the Z06. http://www.ozliberty.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8349

Just for the record that is...........

nutxo · Post by **nutxo** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:28 pm

Mackenzie wrote:The only american car the guy from top gear owns is the ford gt.. He didnt like the zo6 to much, as it couldnt handle like some of the other cars..

zo6
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8tztm9dLyY4&feature=related

Gt

http://youtube.com/watch?v=g4N1vyOxKXM

Sorry man. It was fifth gear in 06. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8px4QuTe1_A

Anyways we can argue this all day. Im not gonna change your opinion and theres no way youre changin this mans opinion.

Post by **fuzzysnuggleduck** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:50 pm

nutxo wrote: The new camaros gonna be a fucking beast. Hell mines no slouch compared to 90% of the cars on the road and I still get 28mpg on the freeway.

Japanese cars and low end american cars all look alike. They have no character and all the fart cans, stickers and gay ass wings cant change the fact the a civic is a civic and a focus is a focus.

I never once mentioned honda or a civic.

Mackenzie · Post by **Mackenzie** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:02 pm

nutxo wrote:
Mackenzie wrote:The only american car the guy from top gear owns is the ford gt.. He didnt like the zo6 to much, as it couldnt handle like some of the other cars..

zo6
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8tztm9dLyY4&feature=related

Gt

http://youtube.com/watch?v=g4N1vyOxKXM
Sorry man. It was fifth gear in 06. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8px4QuTe1_A

Anyways we can argue this all day. Im not gonna change your opinion and theres no way youre changin this mans opinion.

Oh, I have no doubt that the zo6 can handle well, just not aswell as alot of the exotics. Then again, the guy from top gear only drives 200+ thousand dollar euros, so im sure his definition of cars that can handle are much more strict than others

andy600rr · Post by **andy600rr** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:33 pm

Just had to add this.....

http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/tol/li ... 571088.ece

To follow on from that, I believe that he did in fact buy the car back from Ford, but has now sold it and moved on to a Lambo Gallardo.

Mackenzie · Post by **Mackenzie** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:52 pm

Hmm, never knew about that.. I wonder who makes their alarm systems..

andy600rr · Post by **andy600rr** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:58 pm

Mackenzie wrote:Other countrys seem to always have the better offerings. This is somthing I dont understand. Just like the new falcon in australia. It has a 360 twin turbo v6, that would brush off most things around here, and a 5.4 v8 400 hp option... I wish ford would bring it here, but they wont.. They give the other countrys the better models..

Mac I'm not trying to bust your bubble but the Falcon we get here is an in-line 4.0 (260Hp)with a single turbo option (360Hp). The 5.4 V8 is good for 390Hp.

Now, they do a GT version with 404Hp but now we're talking serious $$$

Mackenzie · Post by **Mackenzie** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:08 pm

andy600rr wrote:
Mackenzie wrote:Other countrys seem to always have the better offerings. This is somthing I dont understand. Just like the new falcon in australia. It has a 360 twin turbo v6, that would brush off most things around here, and a 5.4 v8 400 hp option... I wish ford would bring it here, but they wont.. They give the other countrys the better models..
Mac I'm not trying to bust your bubble but the Falcon we get here is an in-line 4.0 (260Hp)with a single turbo option (360Hp). The 5.4 V8 is good for 390Hp.

Now, they do a GT version with 404Hp but now we're talking serious $$$

eh, I was close enough with the hp options. Same difference

Post by **mr tibbs** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:45 pm

Yep, I'll stick with Toyota!!

Linky

capitolj80 · Post by **capitolj80** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:29 pm

watch out for hyudai dudes!! they're on a mission! might take um a few more years to catch up with toyota and honda, but they are takin some big steps in the right direction. ford's steppin up their game too

Fatii · Post by **Fatii** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:24 pm

F O R D = Fodrar Ordentliga Reparationer Dagligen! lol

if i write it in english it wont be correct! sry..

;)..

Mackenzie · Post by **Mackenzie** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:24 pm

^^ You were probably just trying to bash ford anyways..