how can they get away with that crap?!

capitolj80 · Post by **capitolj80** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:06 pm

ever bought...say...2awg cable, stripped it, and relalized it was about as thick as the last 8awg you used?! I know that getting good cables is important, but this shit is stupid. My buddy got a Power Acoustic 2awg kit and that fucking wire was difinaly somewhere between 4 and 8awg. I know this happens, BUT HOW?! the gauge of a wire is very specific to it's diameter...a wire that is such and such thick is such and such gauge! the conductor dictates the gauge not the o.d. of the insulation!! i used to make the shit! i dont get how these cheap companies can just call it whatever the hell they want and get away with it

Post by **mr tibbs** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:13 pm

Who is going to stop them? Is there a governing body over this kind of stuff? My guess is that shitty companies such as that will continue to do it until someone stops them or they lose their ass due to getting a shitty name in the business.

capitolj80 · Post by **capitolj80** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:19 pm

yeah it's fucked up dude...it's like a company labeling their sub as 12" when it only measures 10" across. i think ima write power acoustic a strongly worded letter on behalf of mike...and it'll smell alot like my ass.

capitolj80 · Post by **capitolj80** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:22 pm

i imagine kicker makes pretty good wire... i was thinkin about getting their 1awg dual kit for my rsd1200.1 and rsd250.2...it doesnt come with rca's so i'm gonna get the knuconptz krystal 4chnl set.

Post by **mr tibbs** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:24 pm

Yep, from what I hear the Kicker stuff is pretty good. You might want to look into a PG 1/0 kit if your in the market for a kit. I hear it's pretty nice as well.

capitolj80 · Post by **capitolj80** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:26 pm

i just might consider that

Post by **fuzzysnuggleduck** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:56 pm

I got the PG kit, it is of good quality.

Post by **stipud** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:21 am

Knu makes excellent power wire kits too

Post by **Bfowler** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:50 am

mr tibbs wrote:Yep, from what I hear the Kicker stuff is pretty good. You might want to look into a PG 1/0 kit if your in the market for a kit. I hear it's pretty nice as well.

got to amazon.com and pick up the PG Akit1

keep in that it contains pg's loer end wire, which is still pretty nice, plus the battery terminal/fuseholder which is an awesome peice

http://www.amazon.com/Phoenix-AKIT-ONE- ... 25&sr=8-12

capitolj80 · Post by **capitolj80** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:29 am

that is a nice deal on the pg kit...only problem is that i'd have to get the 4awg and another disto block seperately since i'll be running the 250.2 also...i kinda wanna get that all together so i dont have to pay for the extra shipping and such...the krystal rca's are the only thng ill have to get seperately...thnx 4 the words dudes

capitolj80 · Post by **capitolj80** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:08 am

well, i just checked things out again and it may actually be more cost effective to get the PG 1/0 kit. That kit, 20ft of knu 4awg, another disto block, and the 4 chnl krystal rca's will actually run me less than the kicker dual 1awg kit (plus rca's)...kick ass..

Post by **stipud** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:10 am

Don't forget Knu's 0 gauge kits

capitolj80 · Post by **capitolj80** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:14 am

i'm sure i'd love the knu stuff, but my whole setups gonna be PG, so if i can stick with that, i'd like to...especially since the PG kit will be less MULAH! (i also enjoy uniformity)...i will b using the knu 0/4 and rca's, though.

Post by **Bfowler** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:17 am

that fuse block that comes with the kit...is worth the price by itslef almsot.

you were you going to connect to the battery before?

capitolj80 · Post by **capitolj80** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:21 am

yeah, i was gonna use a regular ole connector ring....not good?

Post by **fuzzysnuggleduck** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:26 am

I got a matching ground terminal when I bought the PG 1/0 kit and I have to say these terminals are fantastic! I also went with some Tantrum distro blocks, which are now hard to find but worked really well for me.

Pardon the somewhat large photos.

Post by **Bfowler** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:29 am

capitolj80 wrote:yeah, i was gonna use a regular ole connector ring....not good?

well now you wont have to

nothing wrong with the ring connector....but the batter terminal in that kit is the absolute tits

capitolj80 · Post by **capitolj80** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:34 am

you kiddin!! i love big pictures...so much more detail...that's a really good lookin kit...lookin forward to my own

Post by **stipud** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:34 am

Disappointing that nobody seems to make a 1/0 gauge kit, that also includes a negative battery terminal and some extra 0 gauge ground wire, so that you can improve that connection as well.

If you can, you definitely should try to find the matching ground terminal. At the very least, ensure there is some sort of 0 gauge ground going from your battery to the frame. Otherwise all the power running down that 0 gauge will be limited by the teeny tiny wire grounding to your battery.

capitolj80 · Post by **capitolj80** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:37 am

....but the batter terminal in that kit is the absolute tits[/quote]

nice

Post by **Bfowler** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:41 am

just to make sure you know, that negative battery terminal doesnt come with the kit, only the positve.

the big square lug in the pictures does though.

capitolj80 · Post by **capitolj80** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:42 am

i definaly plan on upgrading that battery ground cable to 1/0...i may even to the big three that way....i think i can actually score about 10' of it for free...i made it myself years ago when i worked at interstate wire.. i think a buddy of mine still has some sittin around that i gave him

Post by **Bfowler** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:43 am

stipud wrote:Disappointing that nobody seems to make a 1/0 gauge kit, that also includes a negative battery terminal and some extra 0 gauge ground wire, so that you can improve that connection as well.

If you can, you definitely should try to find the matching ground terminal. At the very least, ensure there is some sort of 0 gauge ground going from your battery to the frame. Otherwise all the power running down that 0 gauge will be limited by the teeny tiny wire grounding to your battery.

i think becasue at theat point it isnt really a "kit" that they can sell very effectivly. its usually a shop that just has all the wire in bulk. i know PG doesnt move a large amount of the 1/0 compared to the 4 and 8 awg kits

capitolj80 · Post by **capitolj80** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:54 am

doesn't the knu 0awg kit come with an extra 5' for the battery neg?

dwnrodeo · Post by **dwnrodeo** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:09 am

Where'd you get that negative battery terminal??