What head unit are you using and Why?

bruther · Post by **bruther** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:13 pm

I have the new Eclipse 3200 which is similar to the 7200. I would recommend looking elswhere. Look back through this post and you can see my negatives. The same will hold true for the 7200 as they are both for all sense and purposes the same HU.

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KHPower · Post by **KHPower** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:19 pm

bruther wrote:I have the new Eclipse 3200 which is similar to the 7200. I would recommend looking elswhere. Look back through this post and you can see my negatives. The same will hold true for the 7200 as they are both for all sense and purposes the same HU.

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Indeed the 2 units have the same layout and will probably function similar and I looked again at what you wrote for the negatives and it seems the only thing that might bothe rme som is the volum control being so slow and perhaps th usb.

As for other decks the cd 9887 seems lik ea cool deal , but while I was weighing the options and comparing the features to the eclipse the Eclipse blows it outta the water hands down. The reason being the Equalization features are sort of the same between the 9887 and the 7200 mkll , fir usb the eclip[se has it buit in , for the 9887 NOPe gotta pay 145 bucks.

Imprint seems cool but not really looking to go to the dealer to pay each time I want a change becasue I heard most folks need to tune and re tune numerous times untill they find the right spot. The eclipse however has a 10 dollar mic that you can hook up and send it to iserv to help better your sound. Plus 8 volt outs compared to 4.

Still tough

Do you want to sell your 3200?????

flogger11 · Post by **flogger11** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:56 pm

I believe crutchfield will rent you the equipment to tune the 9887 for $50. They charge your card the new price, send you the gear, when you send it back they refund the amount in full less the $50. Sweet deal if you ask me...

KHPower · Post by **KHPower** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:04 pm

flogger11 wrote:I believe crutchfield will rent you the equipment to tune the 9887 for $50. They charge your card the new price, send you the gear, when you send it back they refund the amount in full less the $50. Sweet deal if you ask me...

I seen that on Crutchfield and it is a ok deal so taht you can at leat use the imprint. Still , if you were going to own this deck for some time , wouldnt you want to have the Imprint mic and software? I would.

Its kinda a hard decision , the 9887 seems like it has something great but with the Eclipse it just has the things I want built in. Even though the Eclipse is about 100 more it still is cheaper in the long run compared to the 9887.

Still a tough decision

flogger11 , howz about you send me your 9887 so I can give it a test run? I mean your from Iowa and Im from Nebraska USPS will take a day to ship

jogi · Post by **jogi** » Sun Aug 24, 2008 10:41 am

I use the Clarion HX-D2

i'm loving Clarion. is my second unit after the 938r

was a dream(from myself) to build an 4way system only by the HU without any preamps

SolacE · Post by **SolacE** » Sun Aug 24, 2008 4:50 pm

i am running a clarion hx-d10. Also running a 6 disc changer and cenet dvd player with dsp and eq. Also able to hook my ipod up so I am all set.

csperl1 · Post by **csperl1** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:19 pm

Alpine 9835

Like
Overlappable 3 way crossover with selectable 6-24 db/oct slopes, 5 band Parametric EQ with selectable center freqs, XM capable, 4 V f/r/sub out, time alignment, fan cooled (really cute tiny fan...yes I said cute), I can control the level outputs from the drivers seat, biolite display, etc.
Dislike
Biolite display hard to see in bright light.

cojones · Post by **cojones** » Mon Nov 03, 2008 4:46 pm

Pioneer P9 + Deq

3 24bit DACs

Left and right channels have individual adjustment capability by default, but there is a switch that locks them together for simultaneous adjustment. Also included are Bass and Treble shelving filters with adjustable frequency and level, which act as the typical "tone" controls for macro adjustment of the overall tonal balance.

5 EQ presets. Each of the memory presets can be titled, so you can easily remember what they are; and the memories can be locked so that you don't accidentally overwrite your settings. A "flat" preset makes it easy and quick to hear how your settings compare to the raw signal.

The crossover is extremely flexible. It can essentially be disabled so that you have only one full-range output; or it can be set up as a two-way or three-way system that also provides a full-range output simultaneously, or a true four-way system. In addition to giving you crossover points at any of the 1/3 octave frequencies, each of the highpass and lowpass filters has six slope selections of 6, 12, 18, 24, 30, and 36 dB per octave. Phase can be inverted on each output, which is needed when using odd-order slopes (6, 18, and 30 dB which are first order, third order, and fifth order slopes) to avoid cancellation in the crossover region. The amplitude level of each crossover output can be adjusted in 0.5 dB increments from 0 to -24 dB for the low, mid and high outputs, and from +10 to -24 dB for the subwoofer out. Each output can be time-corrected from 0 to 134 inches in 0.67-inch steps. Also, overall listening position can be selected for front left, front right, or both, with fine-tuning capability for both distance and level between the left and right channels.

Basically anything you could want controlable from the deck. And Easier to use then the Alpine F1

marko · Post by **marko** » Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:12 pm

phoenix gold Ti1, only running it because it's unique and has pg slapped on the front

MazdaFan · Post by **MazdaFan** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:22 am

I have a Kenwood KDC-W808 (I think it's from the Excelon range, but in the USA, it has a different model number). It features the d-mask facility, which is great here in South Africa, deters thieves.....

It also has a great 24 bit d/a convertor, and has a nice clean look to it. Very old school look actually.

I love it, and doubt that I'd be changing it anytime soon.

cojones · Post by **cojones** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:24 am

marko wrote:phoenix gold Ti1, only running it because it's unique and has pg slapped on the front

Its also a Denon Z1, not a shabby deck with out it having a PG lable on it or being what? one of three?

marko · Post by **marko** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:22 am

cojones wrote:
marko wrote:phoenix gold Ti1, only running it because it's unique and has pg slapped on the front
Its also a Denon Z1, not a shabby deck with out it having a PG lable on it or being what? one of three?

it's the last one in existance according to some of the pg buffs in here!

i always like to be differant!

BenVollmer · Post by **BenVollmer** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:06 am

Alpine DVI-9990
Alpine PHI-H990

Why?
Read The Manual.

Alpine W205 / BlackBird II
H701

Cheap Adjustments.

Alpine DVA-9860
RUX-C701
PXA-H701

Cheap Adjustments

Eclispe 415

Been Running for 15 years.

Thumper88 · Post by **Thumper88** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:10 am

Still using the Pioneer DEH-P880PRS, and loving it.
Just bought an audiocontrol dqxs for more control...
I'd like to get a Navigation unit, probably Pioneer (AVIC-F90BT), but any recommendations?
I saw a JVC which actually had a removeable faceplate/screen, which I thought was kind of cool, although rather large to carry around.

BenVollmer · Post by **BenVollmer** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:22 am

cojones wrote:Basically anything you could want controlable from the deck. And Easier to use then the Alpine F1

Except not all of the crossover points are available to you. Cross your Mid Basses over below 200? Yeah, I didn't think so.

The F#1 is Way easier. Just get a monitor or a PC. The head unit adjustment is horrible, but with a monitor, it rocks.

cojones · Post by **cojones** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:40 am

BenVollmer wrote:
cojones wrote:Basically anything you could want controlable from the deck. And Easier to use then the Alpine F1
Except not all of the crossover points are available to you. Cross your Mid Basses over below 200? Yeah, I didn't think so.

The F#1 is Way easier. Just get a monitor or a PC. The head unit adjustment is horrible, but with a monitor, it rocks.

The P9 is easily controlable from the deck and the mid bass crossover range is 25hz to 10khz.

BenVollmer · Post by **BenVollmer** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:30 am

I was looking at them, but will have to go back and check. Something made it not work for me.

It was probably the same reason i hate AC signal processors. They don't allow for under or overlap...

jonnyanalog · Post by **jonnyanalog** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:15 am

iva-w200 and soon to have pxa-h701.
I chose the w200 since its a Double DIN head, no nav, and a very nice graphic display for tweaking.
The h701 speaks for itself.

KHPower · Post by **KHPower** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:00 pm

cojones wrote:Pioneer P9 + Deq

3 24bit DACs

Left and right channels have individual adjustment capability by default, but there is a switch that locks them together for simultaneous adjustment. Also included are Bass and Treble shelving filters with adjustable frequency and level, which act as the typical "tone" controls for macro adjustment of the overall tonal balance.

5 EQ presets. Each of the memory presets can be titled, so you can easily remember what they are; and the memories can be locked so that you don't accidentally overwrite your settings. A "flat" preset makes it easy and quick to hear how your settings compare to the raw signal.

The crossover is extremely flexible. It can essentially be disabled so that you have only one full-range output; or it can be set up as a two-way or three-way system that also provides a full-range output simultaneously, or a true four-way system. In addition to giving you crossover points at any of the 1/3 octave frequencies, each of the highpass and lowpass filters has six slope selections of 6, 12, 18, 24, 30, and 36 dB per octave. Phase can be inverted on each output, which is needed when using odd-order slopes (6, 18, and 30 dB which are first order, third order, and fifth order slopes) to avoid cancellation in the crossover region. The amplitude level of each crossover output can be adjusted in 0.5 dB increments from 0 to -24 dB for the low, mid and high outputs, and from +10 to -24 dB for the subwoofer out. Each output can be time-corrected from 0 to 134 inches in 0.67-inch steps. Also, overall listening position can be selected for front left, front right, or both, with fine-tuning capability for both distance and level between the left and right channels.

Basically anything you could want controlable from the deck. And Easier to use then the Alpine F1

I am glad you brought this thread back and excellent review on the Pioneer P9+DEQ.

What pre-out voltage does that unit produce? Not that it matters with line drivers nows a days but I was just curious?

Pics?

STROKD · Post by **STROKD** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:19 pm

jonnyanalog wrote:iva-w200 and soon to have pxa-h701.
I chose the w200 since its a Double DIN head, no nav, and a very nice graphic display for tweaking.
The h701 speaks for itself.

same exact setup I gots...

I got two like new Z1s in my bedroom, but Im affraid to use em. Don't want to dirty em up as they are too pretty.

gkitching · Post by **gkitching** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:19 pm

cojones wrote:
BenVollmer wrote:
cojones wrote:Basically anything you could want controlable from the deck. And Easier to use then the Alpine F1
Except not all of the crossover points are available to you. Cross your Mid Basses over below 200? Yeah, I didn't think so.

The F#1 is Way easier. Just get a monitor or a PC. The head unit adjustment is horrible, but with a monitor, it rocks.
The P9 is easily controlable from the deck and the mid bass crossover range is 25hz to 10khz.

I think Ben meant lowest Midrange x-over point. It's limited to 250Hz. The P9 set-up is what Ive used for a while now and it's always been a dilemma for me too. I'd like to run my mids down to 80Hz and run my 9" midbass more as a sub. But it limits that possibility. But then there is always the Carrozzeria version. It's more inline with the F1

But unless a laptop is installed in the car, I would agree the P9 is definitely easier to use. A monitor doesn't make adjusting any easier. It just gives a better graphic of the changes you make on the head unit. Which is still a pita.

Mackenzie · Post by **Mackenzie** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:21 pm

I am now a kenwood fan

I use the x592, and love it. Never again will I carry cds in my car. Love the usb interface. Great sounding deck

Post by **bdubs767** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:29 pm

cojones wrote:Pioneer P9 + Deq

3 24bit DACs

Left and right channels have individual adjustment capability by default, but there is a switch that locks them together for simultaneous adjustment. Also included are Bass and Treble shelving filters with adjustable frequency and level, which act as the typical "tone" controls for macro adjustment of the overall tonal balance.

5 EQ presets. Each of the memory presets can be titled, so you can easily remember what they are; and the memories can be locked so that you don't accidentally overwrite your settings. A "flat" preset makes it easy and quick to hear how your settings compare to the raw signal.

The crossover is extremely flexible. It can essentially be disabled so that you have only one full-range output; or it can be set up as a two-way or three-way system that also provides a full-range output simultaneously, or a true four-way system. In addition to giving you crossover points at any of the 1/3 octave frequencies, each of the highpass and lowpass filters has six slope selections of 6, 12, 18, 24, 30, and 36 dB per octave. Phase can be inverted on each output, which is needed when using odd-order slopes (6, 18, and 30 dB which are first order, third order, and fifth order slopes) to avoid cancellation in the crossover region. The amplitude level of each crossover output can be adjusted in 0.5 dB increments from 0 to -24 dB for the low, mid and high outputs, and from +10 to -24 dB for the subwoofer out. Each output can be time-corrected from 0 to 134 inches in 0.67-inch steps. Also, overall listening position can be selected for front left, front right, or both, with fine-tuning capability for both distance and level between the left and right channels.

Basically anything you could want controlable from the deck. And Easier to use then the Alpine F1

The phase can not be altered from each output on the P9. Each level of speakers can, but the L and R channel can not be changed from one another. It may look that way when you play with it, but it will manually switch one if you switch the other.