Where the magic happens.......

Post by **Rold Gold** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:30 am

I've been building my "shop" slowly over the past couple months and have seen pix of HH's shop and some others here and there..... But what about the rest of you guys.....? Post a pic of where you call "home"(yer shop/work area).......

SIDE NOTE-
I'll post pix of mine as soon as construction is complete.

gkitching · Post by **gkitching** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:13 pm

I'm with you! I suddenly find my little basement is stuffed full of tools and equipment with no room to move around and work. I paid 1-800-GOTJUNK to come out and clear out a truckload of junk out of the basement just so I could fill it back up with all my shit from work.

Time to expand. Or maybe teardown the garage and make it bigger

Post by **Rold Gold** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:41 pm

I say get one of those 50x100 pop-up-shop's and pour a pad. My buddy just got his done. He paid like $20K total for a 25x60(I think) and that included the concrete pad which he dug, poured and finished himself.

Once I have that kind of space..... I will have one too.

Post by **mr tibbs** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:00 am

FuzzyHoNutz wrote:I say get one of those 50x100 pop-up-shop's and pour a pad. My buddy just got his done. He paid like $20K total for a 25x60(I think) and that included the concrete pad which he dug, poured and finished himself.

Once I have that kind of space..... I will have one too.

My dad has a metal building just sitting at his house waiting for someone to do the concrete then we will have the same thing. It's 30x50 and I think he paid $2500 for just the building. It should be nice once we get it all set up.

Post by **Rold Gold** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:12 am

$2500 BUX FOR A 30X50.........

At that price, the concrete will cost twice as much as the building did. There was a steal of a deal on CL here a couple months ago for a 4-bay 25x100 with all the doors, electrical/lighting and other goodies for $15K you disassemble and haul. Showed reciept for $35K but that was including the excavation, concrete, assembely labor and all the electric. The only way I'll get to have s shop that big is to move out of city limits.

Post by **fuzzysnuggleduck** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:20 am

FuzzyHoNutz wrote:The only way I'll get to have s shop that big is to move out of city limits.

Ah, you're feeling my pain.

I love living in the city in between awesome urban park and downtown, but there's no way I can own any reasonable space in this location for shop work. I'm starting to think I may have to rent cheapish garage space way out of town to get any sort of decent project done.

bretti_kivi · Post by **bretti_kivi** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:26 am

... and what's wrong with that? as long as it's secure, has water, drainage, electricty and a way to vent outside, where's the problem?

Bret

Post by **fuzzysnuggleduck** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:42 am

bretti_kivi wrote:... and what's wrong with that? as long as it's secure, has water, drainage, electricty and a way to vent outside, where's the problem?

Bret

From just a quick look on CL, it appears there are somewhat suitable places available starting around $250/month or so for a basic covered/enclosed garage-like space with lighting and outlets. Most of these places are about 45 minutes out of town. I wouldn't need many tools to do the work I'm thinking of either... could rent those for pretty cheap.

bretti_kivi · Post by **bretti_kivi** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:09 pm

so go check it out and work with it for, say, three months. If you find you're not getting anywhere, or it's too cool for words... you've moved on it and learned something. It might not be what you want to hear (like you need to practice using a router and boy, do they make dust) but you'll have been less of a couch potatoe.

Besides, if you're paying good money for it, you'll want to go get your money's worth

Bret

rlockwood · Post by **rlockwood** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:52 pm

well, I dont think ive actually made a post yet regarding my recent home purchase (recent, being back in june)

included with the house was a nice new (to me.. anyway) 24x24 detached garage.. its beautiful.

oldskoolmseriesfan · Post by **oldskoolmseriesfan** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 6:31 pm

Im hoping for a tablesaw for Christmas, to start my shop

blake · Post by **blake** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 6:55 pm

Can you guys tell me what kind of nailer and or stapler i need to make my amp rack?I'm going to buy a table saw,nail gun,etc. and want to make sure i buy this stuff once.What is better when building to hold the mdf together without making it split?

rlockwood · Post by **rlockwood** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 7:33 pm

blake wrote:Can you guys tell me what kind of nailer and or stapler i need to make my amp rack?I'm going to buy a table saw,nail gun,etc. and want to make sure i buy this stuff once.What is better when building to hold the mdf together without making it split?

ive always just used screws (pre-drilled, of course), clamps and glue.

GX3 · Post by **GX3** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 7:35 pm

blake wrote:Can you guys tell me what kind of nailer and or stapler i need to make my amp rack?I'm going to buy a table saw,nail gun,etc. and want to make sure i buy this stuff once.What is better when building to hold the mdf together without making it split?

you want to drill a pilot hole then screw and glue the mdf together. I have used a finish nail gun b4 just to hold things in place untill i get all the screws in you dont need that many nails that is. just enough to hold the wood in place.

Pick this up it drills your pilot hole countersink and then you flip it over to drive the screw in.

http://www.dewalt.com/us/products/acces ... uctID=2648

blake · Post by **blake** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 7:43 pm

Sweet thanks man..What screws do i wanna use to screw the mdf together?

GX3 · Post by **GX3** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 7:50 pm

1 1/4 course thread drywall screws work fine or deckmate it you want over kill

blake · Post by **blake** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 8:10 pm

My list is getting bigger..

gkitching · Post by **gkitching** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:14 am

Truth is, when building a box, the glue is where the strength will come from. I know you've heard that and find it hard to accept sometimes maybe skeptical. But it's true. You can test the theory by gluing 2 pieces of mdf together, let them dry and then break them apart and see what 'gives'. It will be the wood that splits, chips and so forth. Not the glue joint. So with that in mind, why take all the time to measure, predrill, countersink and screw the panels together? When a nail will hold it together long enough for the glue to dry just as well as a screw? I stopped screwing wood together long ago. Wanna make it crazy stong? Dado the joints like HH did in his install. Although he chose to use screws too. he could've nailed it and had just as strong a box.

http://phoenixphorum.com/triple-ba-10-5 ... t7766.html

As for nail guns, something that will do 2" brads is what you want to look for. The smaller ones only hold up to a 1 1/4" brad and thats just not long enough in some cases. And lets face it .. anything with the word 'gun' in it's description is always a fun tool to have!

This is an excellent gun and a really good price for that size.

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=p ... lpage=none

bretti_kivi · Post by **bretti_kivi** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:27 am

^^ what he said on the glue, big time. I like to screw stuff together when the glue is in place, simply because it works well in addition to / instead of lots of clamps.

Bret

blake · Post by **blake** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:22 pm

So this is what i need to do the dado joints http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/sto ... -100025201

Post by **fuzzysnuggleduck** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:33 pm

GX3 wrote:you want to drill a pilot hole then screw and glue the mdf together. I have used a finish nail gun b4 just to hold things in place untill i get all the screws in you dont need that many nails that is. just enough to hold the wood in place.

Pick this up it drills your pilot hole countersink and then you flip it over to drive the screw in.

http://www.dewalt.com/us/products/acces ... uctID=2648

Drill baby, Drill!

blake · Post by **blake** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:39 pm

I'll go the glue and finishing nailer route..What kind of glue do you guys use when carpeting your boxes and racks?