Check this out for a "FNG"
Check this out for a "FNG"
Hello folks. I am new to the PG fray but alway wanted to givem a shot. Always seemed like a good solid company with solid products. The time has come lol.
A bit about me..... I live in a small town, Galena KS, never owned anything PG before, I am a music nut, listen to little rap/hip hop and country but 75% metal, punk, and alternative (Seether, Staind, Chevelle, SOD, Pantera, Maiden, Nirvana, Cramos, ect) have run Kicker subs and amps in most everything I owned (the HQ in Stillwater OK is close to home but I eally like the older products more), and like to think I know what I am doing but I am always looking for a way to "build a better mouse trap". Seems like a pretty sharp bunch on these forums and really looking for a little feedback in my thinking if possible.
My question is how does this set up look? I have a 96 Ram ext cab that had 2 Kicker CVR10s (1cuft sealed each)and a ZR600 amp in it. he never really sounded right so I sold em and I am ready to start from scratch. I have got a few things for the truck already.
Head Unit is a Alpine CDA9887
2 sets RSd65cs comps in the front doors (tweets mounted in the kick panels)
1 Rsd12D in a 1.7cuft sealed box (3/4" mdf braced)
1 Amp for comps (oldie but has been good to me)
Crossfire CFA 354 Specs:
RMS Power* 35 x 4 @ 4ohm 0.02%THD
RMS Power* 75 x 4 @ 2 ohms 0.02%THD
Bandwidth: 5Hz – 38Khz
12dB Crossover: Switchable 70Hz LP, 100Hz Hp, Off
Signal to Noise:>95 dB
Channel Separation:>65 dB
Input Sensitivity:190 mv – 4 volts
Input Impedance:20K ohm
Damping Factor:>120
Dimensions:9.6”W x 2.0”H x 10.32”L
Crossfire amplifiers meet or exceed their power ratings at 12.5VDC.
1 amp for sub
Avionixx 1200.2 Specs:
Digital Class T Amplifier
Number of Channels 2
MAX Power @ 4ohm 2400 Watts Bridged
MAX Power @ 2ohm 2x1200
RMS Power @ 4ohm, <0.05% THD 2x300
RMS Power @ Bridged 4 ohm <0.5% THD 1x1200
RMS Power @ 2 ohm, <0.5% THD 2x600
Power Bandwidth (Rated Power -1dB) 15Hz - 30kHz
Frequency Response (+0/-3dB) 5Hz - 40kHz
"A" Weighted Signal to Niose Ratio >-90dBA
Channel Seperation > 60dBa
Damping Factor >100
Variable Input Level 150mV - 10V
Variable Frequency Bass EQ 25Hz - 80Hz
Variable Dynamic Bass Boost 0 - 18dB
Variable Low Pass Crossover Filter 50Hz - 400Hz 24dB
Variable High Pass Crossover Filter 50Hz - 400Hz 24dB
Double Sided, 2Oz. Copper Clad FR4 board
Overload Protection
DC Off-Set Protection
Heat Sink Dimensions - Inches 13 7/8x 9 7/8 x 2 1/4
Weight 12.5 Lbs.
That is it in a nut shell. Is this thing gonna rock or what? I am excited to get this stuff installed after readin all the good things I have heard about the rsd line. Any comments or suggestions? Only real problem I see is the sub wont get all the power the amp has to offer. Should have gotten a svc sub and took advantage of the 1200rms at 4ohms.
THANKS for any help given.
Keven
A bit about me..... I live in a small town, Galena KS, never owned anything PG before, I am a music nut, listen to little rap/hip hop and country but 75% metal, punk, and alternative (Seether, Staind, Chevelle, SOD, Pantera, Maiden, Nirvana, Cramos, ect) have run Kicker subs and amps in most everything I owned (the HQ in Stillwater OK is close to home but I eally like the older products more), and like to think I know what I am doing but I am always looking for a way to "build a better mouse trap". Seems like a pretty sharp bunch on these forums and really looking for a little feedback in my thinking if possible.
My question is how does this set up look? I have a 96 Ram ext cab that had 2 Kicker CVR10s (1cuft sealed each)and a ZR600 amp in it. he never really sounded right so I sold em and I am ready to start from scratch. I have got a few things for the truck already.
Head Unit is a Alpine CDA9887
2 sets RSd65cs comps in the front doors (tweets mounted in the kick panels)
1 Rsd12D in a 1.7cuft sealed box (3/4" mdf braced)
1 Amp for comps (oldie but has been good to me)
Crossfire CFA 354 Specs:
RMS Power* 35 x 4 @ 4ohm 0.02%THD
RMS Power* 75 x 4 @ 2 ohms 0.02%THD
Bandwidth: 5Hz – 38Khz
12dB Crossover: Switchable 70Hz LP, 100Hz Hp, Off
Signal to Noise:>95 dB
Channel Separation:>65 dB
Input Sensitivity:190 mv – 4 volts
Input Impedance:20K ohm
Damping Factor:>120
Dimensions:9.6”W x 2.0”H x 10.32”L
Crossfire amplifiers meet or exceed their power ratings at 12.5VDC.
1 amp for sub
Avionixx 1200.2 Specs:
Digital Class T Amplifier
Number of Channels 2
MAX Power @ 4ohm 2400 Watts Bridged
MAX Power @ 2ohm 2x1200
RMS Power @ 4ohm, <0.05% THD 2x300
RMS Power @ Bridged 4 ohm <0.5% THD 1x1200
RMS Power @ 2 ohm, <0.5% THD 2x600
Power Bandwidth (Rated Power -1dB) 15Hz - 30kHz
Frequency Response (+0/-3dB) 5Hz - 40kHz
"A" Weighted Signal to Niose Ratio >-90dBA
Channel Seperation > 60dBa
Damping Factor >100
Variable Input Level 150mV - 10V
Variable Frequency Bass EQ 25Hz - 80Hz
Variable Dynamic Bass Boost 0 - 18dB
Variable Low Pass Crossover Filter 50Hz - 400Hz 24dB
Variable High Pass Crossover Filter 50Hz - 400Hz 24dB
Double Sided, 2Oz. Copper Clad FR4 board
Overload Protection
DC Off-Set Protection
Heat Sink Dimensions - Inches 13 7/8x 9 7/8 x 2 1/4
Weight 12.5 Lbs.
That is it in a nut shell. Is this thing gonna rock or what? I am excited to get this stuff installed after readin all the good things I have heard about the rsd line. Any comments or suggestions? Only real problem I see is the sub wont get all the power the amp has to offer. Should have gotten a svc sub and took advantage of the 1200rms at 4ohms.
THANKS for any help given.
Keven
Last edited by zaxeon on Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:04 am, edited 1 time in total.
My suggestions...
With two sets of RSD components, you have to make sure you run the mids/tweets on the same plane, as close to each other as possible, otherwise you will have cancellation. If you can't mount them on the same plane, it is better to use a single comp set (in fact, I would recommend this either way). You can either bridge your amp to one set for lots of power, or run the set active (remove the passive, and run two channels to the tweeters and two to the midranges). For running active, you would need a good crossover, which I think your headunit is capable of doing.
For your music, instead of the RSD, pay a bit extra and get the RSD competition woofer. Not only do they require smaller boxes, they are also punchier and better at rock/punk than the regular RSDs. The RSD comp is a phenomenal sounding speaker, with lots of output on little power as well, and is capable of playing everything from high to low bass with ease. If you got a D2, it would take all 1200 watts your amp would give you as well. The regular RSDs take up to 600 quite easily.
With two sets of RSD components, you have to make sure you run the mids/tweets on the same plane, as close to each other as possible, otherwise you will have cancellation. If you can't mount them on the same plane, it is better to use a single comp set (in fact, I would recommend this either way). You can either bridge your amp to one set for lots of power, or run the set active (remove the passive, and run two channels to the tweeters and two to the midranges). For running active, you would need a good crossover, which I think your headunit is capable of doing.
For your music, instead of the RSD, pay a bit extra and get the RSD competition woofer. Not only do they require smaller boxes, they are also punchier and better at rock/punk than the regular RSDs. The RSD comp is a phenomenal sounding speaker, with lots of output on little power as well, and is capable of playing everything from high to low bass with ease. If you got a D2, it would take all 1200 watts your amp would give you as well. The regular RSDs take up to 600 quite easily.
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Thanks for looking guys. I have all the stuff already was looking for some input. I think I may sell the rsd12 and pick up a rsd comp12 in the d2ohm version instead. That way I could really use all the amp can offer. I was thinking about usin one comp set also. Just looking for the best set up. I didnt even think about mountin the comps on the same plane. Info like that is why Im here. Thanks again.
I'm obviously not hip enough guys. I had to consult urban dictionary to find out what the hell FNG meant. 
(I'm with Bfowler, I can't undertand what's going on there either, but Stipud obviously has it all under control.)

(I'm with Bfowler, I can't undertand what's going on there either, but Stipud obviously has it all under control.)
Honey, I promise ... I've had this old shit laying around in the garage for ages!
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Myself as well.lowpoke wrote:I'm obviously not hip enough guys. I had to consult urban dictionary to find out what the hell FNG meant.![]()
Personally I would've kept that ZR600. I had a 240 and loved it. Wish I still had it. Solid amp too. Not to take away from the amps you bought.
I was a kicker fan too up untill I finally got a PG amp off of ebay and will stick w/PG for some time still to come. I've been a PG fan since before Kicker, but to pricey for the wallet at that time.
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