HOW TO SERVICE A CYCLONE SUBWOOFER PART ONE

nico boom · Post by **nico boom** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 1:50 pm

This post is created to help everybody who has a cyclone subwoofer, or is thinking about buying one.
NOTE that this post is made by me with the best means I have available, combined with the original info provided by the grace of the technicians at PG ,which I thank for their time and efford to make this possible for us, here on this forum.
I have serviced several cyclones, learning all the time; now there is a simple and effective way of performing this operation yourself.
However; I do not take any responsability for problems you might encounter while performing this operation, since there are variables in how bad the rotor is stuck inside the coil, and the degree of your own craftsmanship, as well as the availability of the tools needed.
-I will dedicate a special post later on, explaining how to remove the coil without expensive tools, and with minimal risk of damaging it, as the magnet is mostly stuck VERY TIGHT into the coil, and this is the most critical part of the whole operation, together with putting the coil in again.
GOOD LUCK.
Nico

unfortunately the size of this post has to be divided in two sections; the first pics to be posted next to this one; please begin with that post.
[the original PG way of performing this operation will be added later]

GX3 · Post by **GX3** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 1:59 pm

STICKY IT

nico boom · Post by **nico boom** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 2:02 pm

FIRST PART.

andy600rr · Post by **andy600rr** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 2:09 pm

Great work here Nico.

I'll have to check the one I got in box from Tristan before too long.

Greatly appreciated.

SolacE · Post by **SolacE** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 2:22 pm

Just a note, when I spoke with the one employee left at PG that services these units, he told me they had never seen a single unit come in for service for this problem twice.

thedeal7235 · Post by **thedeal7235** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 3:33 pm

Nico, awesum, truly detailed, great understanding, and perfect documentaion, and explaination!!!!!!!

Post by **smgreen20** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 4:50 pm

Are you "open for business"?

Post by **Wakeup** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 5:56 pm

wooo sweet job there Nico! Great job!
And ya, are you open for business!?

nico boom · Post by **nico boom** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 11:59 pm

When I would live in the US, I'd say "come over to my place and we'll do this operation together, making it a "clone cleaning day".

I have played test tones with it last evening, down to 10Hz, and it really MOVES AIR ; usable as a hairdryer, or to dust-off your stereo....
Playing at just under it's max excursion connected to the bridged ms2250 with a x-over point of 65 Hz.
I wanted to make absolutely sure this methode is working O.K, so that's why I tested it to produce no extra sounds, or distortion because of the coating I applied [quite a thick layer actually]
What do you guys mean by "if Im open for bussiness"?....
I won't have much time to post next couple of days; parents coming over to stay for a few days.....

Post by **smgreen20** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 9:07 am

You have done it and those of us that are scared to attempt it will now be looking for someone to do it.

I have yet to eve test mine since I have had it. It was bought knowing that it didn't work and figured I or PG, or in this case now, YOU might be willing to clean it for myself and others for a price.

Post by **kg1961** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 9:11 am

great job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Post by **Wakeup** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 10:37 am

smgreen20 wrote:You have done it and those of us that are scared to attempt it will now be looking for someone to do it.

I have yet to eve test mine since I have had it. It was bought knowing that it didn't work and figured I or PG, or in this case now, YOU might be willing to clean it for myself and others for a price.

Ya! What he said ^^^^^!!!!

hehe....I have two, so I'd love to get them both done. I have some trade fodder over here if you were interested Nico...!?

Post by **stipud** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 11:54 am

I don't think you guys realize how much it would cost to ship them there and back... let alone the risk of having them break in transit.

And if you're eager to pay someone to do it, why not send them to PG?

marko · Post by **marko** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 11:57 am

i'm wanting to have a play with my BNIB one now after reading about nico's NIB one...

is there a way i can test it to see if it's ok or not- ie rotate paddles by hand or something?

i'd use it in my system but i don't think 1.7cf isn't big enough plus the unit displaces 0.5cf itself!

cojones · Post by **cojones** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 9:53 pm

If any of you 'fraidy cats want to sell those Cylones let me know.

Post by **mr tibbs** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 10:07 pm

Great post nico! I just want to know if we really have to dress up in a suit to preform the cleaning??!!

cojones · Post by **cojones** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 10:09 pm

Naww, Nicos just a classy guy, you think James Bond would service a Cyclone without a suit?.

Post by **Wakeup** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 11:06 pm

Ya....I suppose I could just drop my cyclone off at Rodin....
but it's not the same! I know Nico'd do a good job! hehe....I trust him!!

nico boom · Post by **nico boom** » Sat Jan 03, 2009 4:12 am

I specially dressed all up for you guys; how about that...

Actually it was at one of the rare ocassions where I wear a suit; pics taken right after church, telling my kids to "go and play outside"

, and asking my wife to take the pics. [for a change

]......
Best thing to do for you guys with a stuck cyclone is do -it-yourselves , or send it to PG; remember I'm on the other side of the pond here.
Would love to do it for you guys though.

Tom is right; don't even THINK about shipping and risk of damage during shipping; those people at PG know what they're doing!!

DO NOT CHECK YOUR CYCLONE BY TRYING TO MOVE THE VANES BY HAND !!!!!!

Doing so will leave imprints of your fingers in the lightweight foam of which the vanes are made of.
Use a battery of app. 3 volts or so, to check if the vane moves at all, and if so, if it moves without producing any abnormal sound.
When it moves smoothly, hook it up to an amp with sufficiant power, using a active crossover with low-pass signal.
Slowly turn up the power, holding the clone firmly in your hands and power it up until it just reaches it's max. excursion, using low-frequency test tones.
When this test proves the cyclone to move air without any extra [unwanted] sounds....THEN YOU SHOULD BE A HAPPY MAN....

If not; start reading at the beginning of this thread again.

Nico

Post by **Wakeup** » Sat Jan 03, 2009 8:42 am

Man Nico! you are the bomb!
We all appreciate your write up!
I now just have to build up the courage to work on my own Cyclone or send it in to PG.

nico boom · Post by **nico boom** » Sat Jan 03, 2009 9:38 am

You're welcome.

..and: I serviced my first one without having any info whatsoever about the subject.
So you'll be allright taking it step-by-step!

Post by **Wakeup** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 9:26 am

Working on taking my clone apart today. Sorry unfortunately I won't have documentation or pictures as my friend and I are going to take a stab at it...I'm already here, and didn't bring a camera. Anyway Thanks again NICO! I have started.....and will let you guys all know how it goes!

oldskoolmseriesfan · Post by **oldskoolmseriesfan** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 9:41 am

Great job Nico.Very easy read. I just need to buy a Cyclone now

a side note, The Cyclone is worthy of the Sunday attire

Post by **stipud** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 9:46 am

I will be tidying this post up in a bit, and bringing in PG's steps as well... then posting it in the howto.

Too busy at work right now though, i'll try to remember to do it ASAP.

nico boom · Post by **nico boom** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 12:24 pm

I lost the pics of how to get the coil out; have to take my clone apart again to take new pics

Will do so though, to make this post complete.
After Tom has added the text from PG, it will be a complete guide for all of you HOW-TO-service-a-cyclone-if-you-have-one.