NEW HCCAs for 2009

Mackenzie · Post by **Mackenzie** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 12:43 pm

Pg needs an affordable 2kw amp. Most all companies these days have them, sq oriented companies or not. Also, pg needs to bring back 15s. None of this will happen, but just some thoughts.

PaulD · Post by **PaulD** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:58 pm

thedeal7235 wrote:What truly would be interesting, is if these new hccas could go down to the 1/4 ohm load, or even 1/8ohm load?, as the originals-i had a hcca4225, and let me tell you that when i say it go soooo hot u could fry an egg onit, that is no exaggerration

cheater amps were a result of power classes in competitions in the 80's-90's. Most don't use them anymore and so few people compete that it' a non-issue, I highly doubt you will ever see them like that again.

ssims · Post by **ssims** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 4:54 pm

very true
being in the lowest power class 0-300 doing well over 1000 watts is over

thedeal7235 · Post by **thedeal7235** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 4:58 pm

how do they do the classes (power) now adays? when i competed back in 1990-91, it went something like 0-50,51-100, 101-250, 251-500,501-???? so forth and so on-

ssims · Post by **ssims** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 5:06 pm

i surely remember those days but i havent competed in some time now but now iasca uses about 6 different formats

ssims · Post by **ssims** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 5:25 pm

Below are the types of IASCA competition Formats.

MACS (Mobile Audio Car Show) is a competition format designed for those who want to show off their vehicles and don’t want to get too detailed in the judging of it. Audio and Video are judged in a "car show" style judging format...

IASCA Sound Quality Format (SQ)

This competition format focuses on Sound AND Installation quality. How good the system sounds is one thing, but what it looks like contributes to the total score. Just knowing these rules will help you understand the GOOD, the BAD and the UGLY.

IASCA Sound Quality Challenge Format (SQC)

This is a contest of Sound Quality only. The installation quality is not scored at all. (Now that doesn't mean you should go around with a wack install either).

IASCA IdBL Format (IASCA dB League)

This is a test of "SPL" or Sound Pressure Level. Just how LOUD is LOUD? How much Sound Pressure can your system generate inside of the vehicle with windows shut and doors closed.

IASCA Everblast Bass Boxing Format (EBB)

Bass Boxing is the most fun of the SPL contests... 2 or 3 rounds of competition against a would be contender; first with our test track, then choose your favorite track that makes your ride sing and give your goose bumps.

IASCA Tuner Jam Format

Imagine...a car show format that actually has a scoresheet you get at the end of the competition so you know what areas you stand tall in.

IASCA NiteGlow Format

Light up the night with this auxilliary vehicle lighting contest. we judge the light show... use Neon, Strobe lights, L.E.D.'s, actually anything goes here. Dress up your interior and/or exterior.

thedeal7235 · Post by **thedeal7235** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 6:35 pm

thats seems like itd be alot more FUn, i luv sq, but sometimes, I remember it was too serious, i mean what is that guys name, oh yeah Richard Clark, right?, i think , even back in the 90s he spent like 50k for his ride, which if u got it go for it, but that was in the late 80s or early nineties?, i saw /heard of where he built a massive sub?

thedeal7235 · Post by **thedeal7235** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 6:36 pm

oh, I forgot to add, so serious , i felt like i should of brought some Grey Poupon

ssims · Post by **ssims** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:43 pm

Yes it was Richard Clark and David Navajo the Big contenders back in the day with the Grand National Those was surely the best days but like you said it was "Very Serious"

now i only go to the shows and watch them instead of joining in on the fun

thedeal7235 · Post by **thedeal7235** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:49 pm

grand national, thats right, damn , that was a long time ago---and wasnt it 40-50k he spent on that????

ssims · Post by **ssims** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 8:02 pm

i dont know what the total price was but im sure it was alot and i beleive one of them maybe even both worked for speakerworks here in california

and it was the very 1st car to ever have a perfect score on the rta
tonal accuracy was dead on the money

Grim0013 · Post by **Grim0013** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:29 pm

The one thing that bugs me about the "modern" PG gear is the styling. Everything since the zx/ti series has kind of a "ricer" look to it. I don't mean that in an insulting way. Some of it, like the RSd line, I think actually looks pretty good. It's just that I am really partial to the classic lines of an MS. Plus, you could always mount them upside down with a plexi bottom if you wanted a bling factor. That style is really tough to find these days. I have my 2125TA sitting on my chef's island awaiting installation, and I find myself stroking the heatsink multiple times per day. Yeah, I know "stroking the heatsink" is setting myself up for a masturbation joke, but it's true. "Not in the fins!"

ssims · Post by **ssims** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:36 pm

lol

NICEEEE

denim · Post by **denim** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 7:45 am

I still have 3 large Orion amps. I wonder if those ratings are accurate (5000watts real world?

oldskoolmseriesfan · Post by **oldskoolmseriesfan** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:02 am

Grim0013 wrote:The one thing that bugs me about the "modern" PG gear is the styling. Everything since the zx/ti series has kind of a "ricer" look to it. I don't mean that in an insulting way. Some of it, like the RSd line, I think actually looks pretty good. It's just that I am really partial to the classic lines of an MS. Plus, you could always mount them upside down with a plexi bottom if you wanted a bling factor. That style is really tough to find these days. I have my 2125TA sitting on my chef's island awaiting installation, and I find myself stroking the heatsink multiple times per day. Yeah, I know "stroking the heatsink" is setting myself up for a masturbation joke, but it's true. "Not in the fins!"

For me the RSD line makes me wanna

. I cant stand the looks of them.I know, dont judge a book by its cover.To me the RSD line would be like Hustler putting a 65yr old toothless meth head onto the cover of theyre magazine with the regular Hotties on the inside

The newer amp that jumps out at me is the Xenon, they just look awesome, with the onyx cover.......

thedeal7235 · Post by **thedeal7235** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:16 am

the rsd in person looks pretty good, i think, and i luv the old zx look,gold board, white or black cover, but thats me

GX3 · Post by **GX3** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 3:13 pm

talked to a dealer today and he said the amps will be available in 45 days .........

Post by **joerg** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 3:15 pm

You got a price list for them too?

GX3 · Post by **GX3** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 4:33 pm

not yet.... the shop i was at i was there helping another tech install the network and saw that they had Orion stuff laying around. I asked the installer about the new amps (didnt know much) he had to call the rep and 20min later he came back with the 45 day time line..... the shop is more truck accessory, alarms and car wash more then audio ........a lot of RF laying about and some Orion Cobalt stuff........... Ill stop back by in a few weeks to ask about pricing ..................Wish i could find a PG dealer around here ......i don't think there there any in this state

Orion is going to have new XTR amps as well just saw them on there site

GX3 · Post by **GX3** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 4:38 pm

http://www.orioncaraudio.com/Products/P ... ductID=505

HCCA Class D Mono Amplifiers:

HCCA-50001 (10000 Watts Max Power)
HCCA-25001 (5000 Watts Max Power)
HCCA Linear AB 2 Ch Amplifiers:

HCCA-10002 (2000 Watts Max Power)
HCCA Linear AB 4 Ch Amplifiers:

HCCA-10004 (2000 Watts Max Power)

XTR Class D Mono:

XTR15001 (3000 Watts Max Power)
XTR10001 (2000 Watts Max Power)
XTR5001 (1000 Watts Max Power)
XTR 4 Ch with Crossover:

XTR5004 (1000 Watts Max Power)
XTR2504 (600 Watts Max Power)
XTR 2 Ch with Crossover:

XTR5002 (1000 Watts Max Power)
XTR2502 (500 Watts Max Power)

bogart · Post by **bogart** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:17 pm

I don't know about the new pg stuff but that there 5k animal would do some violent stuff to some pretty hefty drivers....so what will it really take, do you guys think to secure one and has anyone here run the new orion amps or subs. had an hed 15 and it sucked...badly

I bought 13 of the ta ms1ks and sold them all over and played with a few...they were not all that folks. Sorry, but they are hogs and didn't really put out the stunning power of the os line. I haven't bought or used any ryval stuff...though about it at the ff sale but it was not a strong complulsion to resist when there were so many other goodies.

dBincognito · Post by **dBincognito** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:59 pm

Did I miss some announcement or something.......last time I checked Orion is cheap crap built in China for quite some time now

Here is a REAL Orion

bogart · Post by **bogart** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:20 pm

Ah...the beast! I remember when they first hit the market...very nice. I was more into small hifonic and soundstream amps back in the day...bustin suds in college didn't leave much for the system back then. Ahhh those were the days...so what is the hcca2250 putting out? Arnt they stable bridged down to one ohm and .5 ohm stereo

dBincognito · Post by **dBincognito** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:21 pm

Ha ha...this is not the beast.....hold on...I have 1 of those 2

bogart · Post by **bogart** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:24 pm

So what is it? Xtr2500