SQ and 140+db...anyone?

12voltjunky · Post by **12voltjunky** » Sat Apr 03, 2010 7:04 pm

hey gridracer, glad to hear your doing well!
And everyone's input is greatly appreciated, so please
carry on.

oldskoolmseriesfan · Post by **oldskoolmseriesfan** » Sat Apr 03, 2010 7:21 pm

Glad to hear your doing well gridracer

I think system1 of yours is going to be

4M100 AND AN MS2125......dude I will drive out there and install it for you

that just sounds like pure audio bliss dude, complete overkill..........ME LIKEY VERY MUCH

gridracer · Post by **gridracer** » Sat Apr 03, 2010 7:54 pm

go loud or go home right? I have been accumulating gear for that install for a while. Still need 2 M100's then I will have it all.Hopefully soon will just need 1 as I am dealing on 1 now.

oldskoolmseriesfan · Post by **oldskoolmseriesfan** » Sat Apr 03, 2010 7:58 pm

gridracer wrote:go loud or go home right? I have been accumulating gear for that install for a while. Still need 2 M100's then I will have it all.Hopefully soon will just need 1 as I am dealing on 1 now.

YOU NEED 2 MORE M100'S Hazus Christie

gridracer · Post by **gridracer** » Sat Apr 03, 2010 8:02 pm

Well I need 2 more to make it 4 total,if you wanna drive to sask.and help install you have a place to stay.

oldskoolmseriesfan · Post by **oldskoolmseriesfan** » Sat Apr 03, 2010 8:12 pm

gridracer wrote:Well I need 2 more to make it 4 total,if you wanna drive to sask.and help install you have a place to stay.

Dont tempt me dude

A few non violent muggings and Im there

Pedi · Post by **Pedi** » Sat Apr 03, 2010 11:03 pm

gridracer wrote:go loud or go home right? I have been accumulating gear for that install for a while. Still need 2 M100's then I will have it all.Hopefully soon will just need 1 as I am dealing on 1 now.

You need MORE amps??

Jeeezuz! God damn, you have too many amps already

Is this your install-vehicle, BTW? I believe so, you need space like this :

davewaibel · Post by **davewaibel** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 12:22 pm

thanks for all the comments on how my system is shit- too bad your not hear so you can listen to it- with 14 channels of equalization, I can pretty much do whatever I wish to do-I have an audiocontrol rta mounted in my vehicle.
I suppose I could have a single pair of utopias', for 5 grand and then I would have a hole that you could drive a truck through, and a system that is relatively fragile and expensive to repair- too each their own- I say a lot of cynical crap on my posts- but I have never said that someones idea was totally wrong, especially if I never heard it- I was going to post up the other day, but decided to keep my keyboard quiet- I agree if I had a suburban and had all of this in there would have some time alignment issues- I do not have enough space to have time alignment issues- no driver is more than 4 ft away from me- just my thoughts on the whole thing-

gbody805 · Post by **gbody805** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 12:48 pm

I'm planning.
Not really SQ or SPL.
I wanted a nice blend of Loud and clear

Xenon 200.4 -
Zeropoint 6.5 - front kicks
Elite 6.5 - front doors

Xenon 200.4-
Elite 6.5 rear doors
Elite 9" midbass front doors

Xenon X1200.1-
Two Peavery 18" Black widow woofers

Ti1200.1-
Ti Elie 12D

Ti1200.1-
Ti Elite 12D

Post by **ttocs** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 1:30 pm

davewaibel wrote:thanks for all the comments on how my system is shit- too bad your not hear so you can listen to it- with 14 channels of equalization, I can pretty much do whatever I wish to do-I have an audiocontrol rta mounted in my vehicle.
I suppose I could have a single pair of utopias', for 5 grand and then I would have a hole that you could drive a truck through, and a system that is relatively fragile and expensive to repair- too each their own- I say a lot of cynical crap on my posts- but I have never said that someones idea was totally wrong, especially if I never heard it- I was going to post up the other day, but decided to keep my keyboard quiet- I agree if I had a suburban and had all of this in there would have some time alignment issues- I do not have enough space to have time alignment issues- no driver is more than 4 ft away from me- just my thoughts on the whole thing-

Didn't you use yer meter?

I saw nothing wrong with your setup and would rock it. It might be difficult to tune but I have no doubt that with the equipment in there that your system rivals the sound of anyones on here. Not sure why all those options add up to "out of phase" as someone said above unless it was tunes with someone less then golden ears

so maybe you are in the club too. Now go grab a broom and get to it..............

davewaibel · Post by **davewaibel** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 1:40 pm

thanks toc- but you were not the one that was chapping my ass- as we have had this discussion in system 2.0- now that we are at 3.0 most everything has changed- was at the shop the other day and a golf was in there and they were installing a set of utopias, and a funky woofer set up, any way 10k later I sat in the car and listened to it, and it was very, vvvverrrry disappointing- the install was fine, everything was where it was supposed to be, but ridicously thin- especially for the investment- when you spend utopia focal kind of money you are expecting 'perfection', or at least near perfection- hopefully the owner was buying it for posing, and not sound quality- but it really had nothing going for it, other than staging- pretty difficult to screw that up with 4 drivers in front of you- either way, just tired of folks who have read 3 issues of car audio magazine telling me that I am totally wrong- and this and that are impossible to achieve- Yes I am breaking with conventional wisdom, sometimes you lose and sometime it works out ok-any way buddy, I always respect what you have to say-

gridracer · Post by **gridracer** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 2:00 pm

Hey Dave sorry you got the feeling that people think your system is shit because its not its a really decent setup. I hope you can just take some peoples criticism and let it go. I only posted my system's specs because I was excited to talk about SQ and SPL. I think yours will sound great and don't put too much though into what other people think anyway its what you like that really matters.

davewaibel · Post by **davewaibel** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 2:02 pm

thanks grid- guess I am just on the rag-

gridracer · Post by **gridracer** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 2:06 pm

I have my days too we all do.

12voltjunky · Post by **12voltjunky** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 2:50 pm

guys, I'm impressed by all the setups posted
in this thread and I thank you all for sharing.

Still not sure which route I will take, as I want to
try a 1/4 wave T-Line enclosure, but not necessarily w my w6...

I would love to hear all those JL subs in davewaibel's ride!

waynehead · Post by **waynehead** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 3:13 pm

two words

funky pups

davewaibel · Post by **davewaibel** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:33 pm

I am thinking of doing a blow through on my truck, dumping all of my equipment for a straight trade on a wall of funky pups

SLICK · Post by **SLICK** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 6:28 pm

davewaibel wrote:dumping all of my equipment for a straight trade on a wall of funky pups

Funky PuPs ?

todd217 · Post by **todd217** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 8:09 pm

SLICK wrote:
davewaibel wrote:dumping all of my equipment for a straight trade on a wall of funky pups

Funky PuPs ?

they some of the sweetest subs ever made.

Post by **stipud** » Sun Apr 04, 2010 8:51 pm

It's threads like these that make running this Phorum all worthwhile.

If I was going for a 140dB setup, I would probably run two ported 10's tuned to 30-40Hz depending on your musical tastes. In my personal experience there's just something about a pair of ported 10's that kicks ass. It retains the snap and blend of a 10, while having a shitload of output on a modest amp. They rock hard!

Just add a comp set with at least half the power you are feeding to the sub, and you should be good to go for a killer SQL setup.

12voltjunky · Post by **12voltjunky** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:36 am

I wanna learn more about Funky Pups. Could someone help to enlighten me?

Post by **Bfowler** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:50 am

12voltjunky wrote:I wanna learn more about Funky Pups. Could someone help to enlighten me?

this should pretty much cover it!

http://www.queuevonqu.com/funkypup.html

waynehead · Post by **waynehead** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:56 am

http://www.queuevonqu.com/funkypup.html

Disclaimer: Tread lightly because what you are about to see is not for tree-huggers, people with heart conditions or anyone that wears panties.

you have been warned

waynehead · Post by **waynehead** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:58 am

doh you beat me by six minutes

12voltjunky · Post by **12voltjunky** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 2:05 pm

stipud wrote:It's threads like these that make running this Phorum all worthwhile.

If I was going for a 140dB setup, I would probably run two ported 10's tuned to 30-40Hz depending on your musical tastes. In my personal experience there's just something about a pair of ported 10's that kicks ass. It retains the snap and blend of a 10, while having a shitload of output on a modest amp. They rock hard!

Just add a comp set with at least half the power you are feeding to the sub, and you should be good to go for a killer SQL setup.

Stipud, thanks for chiming in. Your input is always valued!
I too like the impact of a 10" sub, however, what tens would be
reccomended if two 12w6v2s couldn't get the job done? Beiseds Funky Pups