what happened??!!

schroedes · Post by **schroedes** » Sat Apr 10, 2010 7:38 pm

Not trying to offend anyone

Post by **Eric D** » Sat Apr 10, 2010 7:40 pm

Ok, I am in the same boat as your friend. I have never heard of one sub popping out like you have explained, unless it was hit with DC.

Subs are pretty simple, you have a magnet, and a coil if you get down too it. If you put no signal on the coil, the sub just sits there. If you put AC on the coil the sub moves in and out. If you put DC on a sub the sub moves one way and then stays there until the coil fails or the DC is removed from it.

Post by **Rold Gold** » Sat Apr 10, 2010 7:40 pm

schroedes wrote:other sub is working fine right now

Then you got a bad woofer.................have them replace it.

Post by **Eric D** » Sat Apr 10, 2010 7:43 pm

Somehow your one sub got hit with DC. We need to find out the source of it.

Now I know you have said they are in parallel. But, what more can you tell us? There has to be something you overlooked, even if it is slight, and we are trying to help you find that.

Did the wires come out of the amp and go to one speaker, then on to the next speaker?

Or, did one set of wires go from the amp to a sub, and a separate set of wires go from the amp to the second sub?

schroedes · Post by **schroedes** » Sat Apr 10, 2010 7:44 pm

Haha, thanks guys, wasn't trying to offend, just frustrated, loved the rsdcs, was just liking for an answer ya know

schroedes · Post by **schroedes** » Sat Apr 10, 2010 7:45 pm

Ya, came out of amp then jumped to next sub at box

Post by **Eric D** » Sat Apr 10, 2010 7:47 pm

schroedes wrote:Haha, thanks guys, wasn't trying to offend, just frustrated, loved the rsdcs, was just liking for an answer ya know

I can understand your frustration, been there myself at least twice this week (fried amp and fried computer)!

But, please try to go easy. We want to help, some of us like myself are arrogant, and provoking us will get you nothing.

Post by **Eric D** » Sat Apr 10, 2010 7:49 pm

schroedes wrote:Ya, came out of amp then jumped to next sub at box

Ok, we are getting somewhere. Is the box wood? What is it covered in? Do you have grills on the speakers? I know these questions seem to have nothing to do with anything, but give me a chance.

SLICK · Post by **SLICK** » Sat Apr 10, 2010 7:54 pm

Eric D wrote:
schroedes wrote:Ya, came out of amp then jumped to next sub at box
Ok, we are getting somewhere. Is the box wood? What is it covered in? Do you have grills on the speakers? I know these questions seem to have nothing to do with anything, but give me a chance.

After a little digging here is his install eric

http://phoenixphorum.com/first-install- ... 11929.html

Post by **Eric D** » Sat Apr 10, 2010 8:00 pm

SLICK wrote:
Eric D wrote:
schroedes wrote:Ya, came out of amp then jumped to next sub at box
Ok, we are getting somewhere. Is the box wood? What is it covered in? Do you have grills on the speakers? I know these questions seem to have nothing to do with anything, but give me a chance.
After a little digging here is his install eric

http://phoenixphorum.com/first-install- ... 11929.html

Thanks, that helps a lot!

Post by **Eric D** » Sat Apr 10, 2010 8:01 pm

What is inside the box? Empty space, polyfill, or any other wiring which runs through the box to get somewhere else?

gridracer · Post by **gridracer** » Sat Apr 10, 2010 8:03 pm

schroedes wrote:Not trying to offend anyone

Calling me a cheeseball wasn't trying to be offensive? What was it

Post by **Eric D** » Sat Apr 10, 2010 8:05 pm

gridracer wrote:
schroedes wrote:Not trying to offend anyone
Calling me a cheeseball wasn't trying to be offensive? What was it

Cheeseball is less offensive than cocksucker or butt pirate.

Post by **Rold Gold** » Sat Apr 10, 2010 8:12 pm

I have to ask if drywall screws were used....................

Post by **Eric D** » Sat Apr 10, 2010 8:14 pm

FuzzyHoNutz wrote:I have to ask if drywall screws were used....................

I think the subs may have been mounted with drywall screws from the photos, so that could have lead to their failure...

SLICK · Post by **SLICK** » Sat Apr 10, 2010 8:15 pm

FuzzyHoNutz wrote:I have to ask if drywall screws were used....................

This thread is coming to be a :

Post by **Eric D** » Sat Apr 10, 2010 8:18 pm

I think I deserve bonus points for not getting pissed off and ripping on this guy like I normally do. Restraint is a hard lesson to learn.

Post by **Rold Gold** » Sat Apr 10, 2010 8:25 pm

gridracer · Post by **gridracer** » Sat Apr 10, 2010 8:25 pm

Eric D wrote:I think I deserve bonus points for not getting pissed off and ripping on this guy like I normally do. Restraint is a hard lesson to learn.

I was thinking the same thing. I usually get upset when a guy asking for help calls me a name for no reason but hey I haven't used 6x9's for 20 years and I'm the cheeseball!

oops I guess thats a jab you are doing better than me Eric.

SLICK · Post by **SLICK** » Sat Apr 10, 2010 8:32 pm

SLICK · Post by **SLICK** » Sat Apr 10, 2010 9:30 pm

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schroedes · Post by **schroedes** » Sun Apr 11, 2010 5:59 am

LOL, no there's no wires inside the box, and no polyfill, 3/4 Mdf, 1.25 cut feet each chamber, didn't use drywall screws but I did put polyfill in with the new subs, I'm still somewhat of a noob so ya I know 6x9 s are worthless hah, forgot that I had those pics up, that's with the old ryval amp, need to get rid of cap too, appreciate the help guys gonna work on it today

schroedes · Post by **schroedes** » Sun Apr 11, 2010 6:03 am

Was hoping this was a common thing with a easy answer lol

Post by **Rold Gold** » Sun Apr 11, 2010 7:10 am

So just to get better clarification, the 1 atlas you have left is running fine on the same amp.....right? Not that it would make the woofer do wierd shit but did you make sure both woofers were the same ohm....? Reason I ask is because sometimes they make mistakes and send 1 different and maybe the amp didn't like it..........

Post by **Eric D** » Sun Apr 11, 2010 8:06 am

Well, it there was nothing for the sub to ground out on, and both were hooked up but the second did not die, something odd happened to the first one. I know it seems like a defect, but I stand behind the assertion that subs can't move on their own. Something related to the output of the amp being offset had to feed the sub to kill it.