An annoying question...

Pedi · Post by **Pedi** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:03 am

I mentioned it in an another thread in here, but to keep the threads clean - I start up a new here....

I have 2 x Cerwin Vega Stroker 18" dual coil, and my plan was at first to use the beautiful MS1000.

But it is hard to get, and my eyes keep falling towards the Hifonics XX Colossus II.... I figured 2 of such amps to my Strokers...

They are "cheap", but in my eyes - brutally raw......

What du you guys in here say??

PS! This is for SPL only - not SQ....

Here is a link to the amp on Ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HIFONICS ... enameZWDVW

Post by **Eric D** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:25 am

Get a big Class D amp and call it good. A MS1000 would be a waste. Not only would it be a waste of a great SQ amp, but the MS1000 is really not that powerful for its size (considering it is Class AB).

Post by **Francious70** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:23 am

I'd say the same. For purely SPL purposes, get the biggest baddest class-D amp you can buy.

Post by **bdubs767** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:10 am

class D are so big and bad now a days, if its for spl it's stupid not to use them

Post by **stipud** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:12 am

Ditto. If SQ is not a concern, class D all the way.

Pedi · Post by **Pedi** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:26 am

I would prefer the MS1000, because of it is big, bad and it is PG!

On the other hand, it is easy 11-1200 us dollars for a nice example (minimum...).

For 1300, I get 2 Class D dual monoblocks from Hifonics to blow the living hell out of my Strokers. So maybe I'll just let the MS1000 be MS1000 - and go for Hifonics, like you other guys also recommend??

I will let my other MS's do the rest of the work on the other speakers...

Thank you guys for sharing your opinion... If there are anyone else with a opinion or comment - feel free to speak out here.

Post by **Francious70** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:13 am

As far as big class-D amps by PG, look at the Xenon 1200.1 or the RSD 1200.1

You may be able to get more than 2 of each of those if you look hard enough.

Post by **AVICJR** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:21 am

If your looking for serious power look at Exile. It will still give you a PG flavor and they have a 2400.1 and the X5= 5000.1.

brenzbmr@sb · Post by **brenzbmr@sb** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 2:16 pm

i second the exile x5 or x2400.1

Pedi · Post by **Pedi** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 10:49 pm

Thanks guys.

I have laid Hifonics behind me - Tristan convinced me yesterday that Hifonics was not the way to go. Atleast not the newer generation.

I am always looking for the Old School amps for my audio-system, but Tristan tipped me about the Fusion 4000D. That amp looks nice for my 2 DC 18" woofers, and more powerful that the MS1000.

BUT... The Fusion is a lovely new amp, and the MS1000 is a lovely old amp. I am getting worried here...

Should I go for the rare (and hard to get) MS1000, and keep the old-school style complete - BUT not that powerful SPL into the 18" woofers...

or...

should I go for a Fusion 4000D. New, lovely design and powerful as a Truck to feed my woofers???

Would you guys be shaking your head if you would see my car, with lots of MS's, FAS and SOFAS - in pure old-school style including old-school 8"/10"/12"/18" woofers etc - AND ONE NEW (but good-lookin' and powerful) Fusion 4000D ???? I know the theme fades out a little, but would you guys shake your head and say " I'd prefer he would have a MS1000 and less sound, instead of that Fusion destroying the theme..." ???

Please be honest and let me know.

Thanks...

here it is btw..

http://www.anythingwholesaleaz.com/inde ... ProdID=751

Post by **fuzzysnuggleduck** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:23 pm

Well, what matters more? Is it SPL or is it overall theme and matching?

I'd maybe look into getting an MPS series if you're going for good power AND matching it all up. If you can wire the Cerwin's down to 1 ohm or less, I believe an MPS2500 or two would do well.

Of course, finding and buying these amps isn't always easy.

Pedi · Post by **Pedi** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:53 pm

fuzzysnuggleduck wrote:Well, what matters more? Is it SPL or is it overall theme and matching?

I'd maybe look into getting an MPS series if you're going for good power AND matching it all up. If you can wire the Cerwin's down to 1 ohm or less, I believe an MPS2500 or two would do well.

Of course, finding and buying these amps isn't always easy.

SPL does matter, yes. However, I am not going for the world-record..

I just want all the "18-20 years-old-and-know-what-is-the-best-stereo-components" to see that the good old PG/Celestion/Cerwin can push some limits. But I also want that my 2 x 18" Strokers to get the power they really need to function perfect.

I do have a mint MPS2500 that I planned I to use on all my 8" mids. But I will maybe change it out, and use some of my MS275s on the 8" mids instead of the MPS. And sell the MPS2500, coz I am going to use all my 2125s on the 12" woofers...

And to use the MPS2500 on two 18" Strokers??? I doubt that the MPS does the Strokers the full respect.... The 18"s demand alot of power...