For those of you that have owned a Xenon 600.1....

Confusedsoul · Post by **Confusedsoul** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:51 am

Can't go with the Xenons then, need bass up to around 70-80hz as I will only have 5.25" for midbass. Sigh, I don't know what the hell I want. Too damn many choices.

Post by **bdubs767** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:41 am

just do the rsd12

or go IB...IB is pure sex, nothing blends better.

fordtough1 · Post by **fordtough1** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:20 pm

bdubs767 wrote:
fordtough1 wrote: 10 IDMax 10d4 v.4
there is no IDMAX v.4

I was just reading that off of the Critical Mass ad in the latest CA & E. I typed it as it was written.

Post by **Wakeup** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:53 pm

linky on the critical mass ad?

Phoenixcolt · Post by **Phoenixcolt** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:59 pm

fordtough1 wrote:Car Audio and Electronics rated them like this

1. Critical mass UL 12 $1999
2. Alpine swx-1242d $499
3. Cerwin Vega Stroker pro 15 $1499
4. PG RSD 12 $159

Those are the retail prices as I recall, I'm sure you can buy any of the 4 cheaper than that...

How amazing is that! Number 4, PG, at a tenth of the cost of the number 3. Geez, if that doesn't speak volumes for this sub, I don't know what does.

Did the cerwin vega even score a shitload better?...i have this review but am not sure which issue its from.

I love myself some RSd...I remember how worried everyone was before any of us experienced it too...funny to think back a little to that.

fordtough1 · Post by **fordtough1** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:05 pm

I can't find a link for it, I'll keep looking. It's been in every Car Audio and Electronics magazine for the past year though.

Confusedsoul · Post by **Confusedsoul** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:38 pm

You know what subs have always intrigued me, the CV Vmax.

Confusedsoul · Post by **Confusedsoul** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:36 pm

Ok, you guys had better be right. Just purchased 2 - rSD12d 12's off ebay. So I'm going to be using my x600.1 @ 4 ohms. When setting my gains, should I set it for 600w or 700w output on the dmm? I know these things are capable of up to 800w at 4 ohms, so I want to squeeze all I can into these. How are these things ported? Really love to try a ported setup, always ran sealed myself.

Brad

Post by **bdubs767** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:19 pm

run sealed in a car the rsd get more then low enough.

Confusedsoul · Post by **Confusedsoul** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:31 pm

bdubs767 wrote:run sealed in a car the rsd get more then low enough.

But how are they ported? And btw, the article in CAM should me in the May 2006 mag

Post by **Bfowler** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 8:17 am

you can us the DMM for a little over 700.

the xenon amps like a lot of input currant. im running a little over 10 volts into mine. so dont be afraid to turn up the sensitivity a little higher then you are used to if you arent using a line driver.

there is no reason that they wouldn't perform well in a ported enclosure, but i have never done it.

1 sealed was loud enough for me. as a rule of thumb, we have figured out that a rsd12 + 600watts + 1.8 sealed box =135db of ultra clear low bass (on music, not tones) so i guess use that as your barometer as to weather you should go ported for more output, or if that's loud enough for you

Confusedsoul · Post by **Confusedsoul** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 9:38 am

Bfowler wrote:so i guess use that as your barometer as to weather

i c what u did there

and ok, i'll set it for 700 on the dmm at 4 ohms.

Confusedsoul · Post by **Confusedsoul** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:27 am

They're here. And they really don't look all that beefy. Hope they live up to the hype. So the consensus is to run them in a 3.6 cu. ft. sealed box instead of porting them even though I only have the 1 x600.1?

Post by **Bfowler** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:04 pm

yeah, the looks are definitely underwhelming. i think you will be surprised when you get power to em

1.8 each will give them flatter response, but you might be able to squeeze and extra DB or 2 if you went a tad smaller. I personally like them quite a bit at 1.8