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stipud wrote:
flogger11 wrote:ZX is slightly more powerful...
Theoretically yes, but it's a difference of about 10-15 watts, which is wholly inaudible. The Ti series are more reliable and have better crossovers.

But when it all comes down to it, they are basically equivalent.
Crossover diff? No shit, I wasnt aware. What did they change?
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flogger11 wrote:Crossover diff? No shit, I wasnt aware. What did they change?
Yeah, it still has the same tech specs (24db/oct slopes), and are equally configurable... the Ti series just does it more eloquently, and has more reliable parts... i.e. the pots don't get all scratchy like they do in the ZX series.
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Old Soundstream, ie Reference or the Class A's etc. yes. There is a new company doing a foreign built tweaked version of the old SoundStreams.
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Well I bought a Ti 400.2 and my dad has a ZX350 so we will see which is better. However he will run boston acoustics pro60 and im running RSD65cs so I hope mine sound better :) prolly not, but maybe if i actually know how to tune it better with the Ti and my head unit. WILL FOR SURE come back to u guys and get input on pro tuning lol! SOO EXCITED Ti 400.2 BABY YEA YEA YEA!
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deathcloud wrote:Well I bought a Ti 400.2 and my dad has a ZX350 so we will see which is better. However he will run boston acoustics pro60 and im running RSD65cs so I hope mine sound better :) prolly not, but maybe if i actually know how to tune it better with the Ti and my head unit. WILL FOR SURE come back to u guys and get input on pro tuning lol! SOO EXCITED Ti 400.2 BABY YEA YEA YEA!
If you sound deaden your doors, you will whoop his ass ;)
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stipud wrote:
deathcloud wrote:Well I bought a Ti 400.2 and my dad has a ZX350 so we will see which is better. However he will run boston acoustics pro60 and im running RSD65cs so I hope mine sound better :) prolly not, but maybe if i actually know how to tune it better with the Ti and my head unit. WILL FOR SURE come back to u guys and get input on pro tuning lol! SOO EXCITED Ti 400.2 BABY YEA YEA YEA!
If you sound deaden your doors, you will whoop his ass ;)
Man, I dont know. I havent heard those PG's, but to keep it real, in my opinion the Bostons are a much better speaker...
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How can you make that claim when you admit that you never heard the PG's? Are you one of those guys that can tell how a speaker sounds by looking at it?
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LOL! Well, taking from my long history in audio, I personally have never heard a pair of $100 speakers I enjoy...
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I just realized the Pro60s are a $600 set of speakers.

They damn well better blow the shit out of the RSd or they represent a poor value.
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flogger11 wrote:LOL! Well, taking from my long history in audio, I personally have never heard a pair of $100 speakers I enjoy...
If you get a chance, give the RSd comps a listen. You may not be blown away but from what I've read not only here but on other sites like DIYMA, the RSd65cs are one of the best sub-$500 sets out there.

I don't have a lot to compare to so I won't religiously push these speakers but they do sound great to me.
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I agree... the Bostons are hands down better speakers.

I don't think they sound better though... but that's just my opinion ;)
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fuzzysnuggleduck wrote:I just realized the Pro60s are a $600 set of speakers.

They damn well better blow the shit out of the RSd or they represent a poor value.
My thoughts exactly. Also I have heard Boston Pro's, they are a great sounding speaker, although I really prefer soft-dome tweeters, especially at higher volumes... This is what ultimately led me to choose the Polks over the Boston SPZ's.
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Ok well most deff I will use dynamat for the doors and sound proof them all. Then also later will come the trunk fa sho. My father has ZX350 and maybe a ZX500 in his truck and I so far have a Ti 400.2 so im hoping ill have a little edge. we will see.
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The dynamt will for sure help your midbass, so he isnt doing his doors?
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Polk SR-6500 (active)
(2) PG 10" RSDC-104 (sealed)
PG PLD-1
PG 1/0, 2 Farad cap
Dynamat Extreme Door/Trunk
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yea hes dynamatting everything... and its easier cuz he doesnt have to waste dynamat on a trunk cuz he has a truck. So hes gunna make sure its DEADEND for SURE.
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man, i hate to say this, you are gonna have a hard time keeping up w/ all your dads stuff my friend...
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WHAT! Come on! I mean I'm gunna have Ti 400.2 and line driver and I think my internal crossovers are better... I dunno its gunna be a close one! hopefully! The next thing I need to do is figure out how to get 14.4 volts throughout the system so I can get full potential. I know cars regularly run at 13.8 so how do i overcome this challenge? Whats the secret?
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not much of a diff on the crossovers, sorry to say. the zx 350 has a little more power but isnt quite as reliable. what r u running for subs/amp?
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Polk SR-6500 (active)
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I am running a rsd600.1 for my soon to be rsdc124 running at 2 ohms... Should be way better in the sub area because he has a truck and I have a car. Hes gunna get 2 rockford P3 shallow mount subs...
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thats where your advantage lies for sure, he def has the better front end, but yours subs should blow his away!
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Polk SR-6500 (active)
(2) PG 10" RSDC-104 (sealed)
PG PLD-1
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How do I reach 14.4 volts continuous throughout my car? Do I need to do the big 3 upgrade? Do I need to run 0 guage wiring? TELL ME!
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4 gauge (or 2 gauge if you like) is more than enough, plus a cap would be great. What does your stock alternator put out? I know mine has 105 amps continuous, but my car has lots of factory options so has the upgraded alternator...
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PG ZX-450 v2
PG ZPA0.5 v2
Polk SR-6500 (active)
(2) PG 10" RSDC-104 (sealed)
PG PLD-1
PG 1/0, 2 Farad cap
Dynamat Extreme Door/Trunk
(Anybody have a HO alternator for a late model Accord V-6?)
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I have a mazda 3 2.3 liter car. I have no clue as to what my alternator is or what it can do.
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deathcloud wrote:I have a mazda 3 2.3 liter car. I have no clue as to what my alternator is or what it can do.
I found my info on the internet, google dude! If you cant find it there, call the dealer...
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PG ZX-450 v2
PG ZPA0.5 v2
Polk SR-6500 (active)
(2) PG 10" RSDC-104 (sealed)
PG PLD-1
PG 1/0, 2 Farad cap
Dynamat Extreme Door/Trunk
(Anybody have a HO alternator for a late model Accord V-6?)
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Post by Slippin3 »

Looks to be a 90A alternator:

http://www.wolfesauto.com/mazda/new-mod ... /specs.htm

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