PG titanium Elite 1200watts rms

selondontiburon · Post by **selondontiburon** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:17 pm

Can somebody please help, i just got this sub, i am using a JBL GTO14001e amp (1500watts rms) and the sub sounds more like 300-500rms?! Why? i am running 4g wire. and a sealed small box!

Post by **stipud** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:31 pm

Did you wire the voicecoils in series or parallel? Make certain you have them wired in parallel... + to +, and - to -. Also make sure you're not using the LED inputs instead of a voicecoil!

4 gauge wire is probably the bare minimum for that amp... better would be 2 or 0 gauge, and a splitter. Also, the sub prefers larger boxes, ~1.5cuft or so. But it should still sound louder than that.

selondontiburon · Post by **selondontiburon** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:33 pm

I dont know, just just joined all 3 of them 2gether!?

selondontiburon · Post by **selondontiburon** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:43 pm

Im so confused as to how i wire it! i must have done it wrong, as it sounds TERRIBLE! (doesnt even shake my mirrors)

selondontiburon · Post by **selondontiburon** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:44 pm

LED INPUTS? there is 3 terminals on the sub right?! How do i know which 1 is the led and which other 2 is the vc's?!

nick-caper · Post by **nick-caper** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:47 pm

dude. dont just hook stuff up! Thats the fastest way to destroy anything!

Post by **Wakeup** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:18 pm

a quick easy test to see if they are VC's or LED's.....is to hook up like a 9volt battery to the terminals....one at a time....and just for a second. If it is a Voice coil it should make the sub woofer voice coil pop or move etc. If it is the LED then it should light the LED's...or so...

Post by **AVICJR** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:14 pm

Do yourself a favor and DO NOT POWER THE SUB ANYMORE UNTIL: you properly wire it!!

Here is the manual. Make sure you only connect the voice coils and leave the LED (lights) disconnected, or run them a separate power (+) and ground (-).

http://download.phoenixphorum.com/Manua ... ev8.02.pdf

selondontiburon · Post by **selondontiburon** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:32 pm

Thanks people! I understand the concept of being a dumba** and NOT wiring the led's! But still not sure how i wire up the VC'S?! Do i just join the + to the other + and the - to the other - then + off VC -1 and - off VC-2 then into my amp.

capitolj80 · Post by **capitolj80** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:44 am

close...except, at the end, run the +and- from the same VC (of your choice) to the amp. maybe it'd work fine the way you mentioned, but i havent done it like that, so i cant vouch...good luck dude.

Post by **AVICJR** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:47 am

Scroll down to page 2 for a picture diagram. You want the sub wired in parallel.

http://www.rodinaudio.com/pgMobile/pdf/ ... lVoice.pdf

selondontiburon · Post by **selondontiburon** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 4:46 am

I THINK! from what i can tell, i HAVE wired my sub in Parrallel.

selondontiburon · Post by **selondontiburon** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 4:50 am

So if i have wired this in perfect by the sub, why is it sounding so low! its SERIOUSLY does not feel like 1500watts rms! NO WAY! my old system was 700rms and that kicks this ass bigtime! Can it be because i should be running thicker wire then 4g? and only using a oem battery!

dwnrodeo · Post by **dwnrodeo** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 4:55 am

Use a DMM to test the resistance of the sub once you have it wired. It should read around 2 ohms if wired in parallel.

selondontiburon · Post by **selondontiburon** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 5:05 am

Yeah it was reading 2.1-2.3

flogger11 · Post by **flogger11** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 5:07 am

Were you running a ported enclosure with your last sub? If so, that will make a HUGE difference on output...

selondontiburon · Post by **selondontiburon** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 5:09 am

Yeah my last setup was ported! But still this box i have now is CRAP, but the actually sound/power of it still feels sooooo weak!!!

flogger11 · Post by **flogger11** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 5:14 am

Is your sealed box to spec?

flogger11 · Post by **flogger11** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 5:15 am

Also, do you mainly listen to techno/rap/hip hop? if so, you WILL NOT be happy w/ the sealed enclosure and will have to go back to a ported design...

selondontiburon · Post by **selondontiburon** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 5:17 am

I listen to trance/dance/rap etc. But i THINK my box is def too small, its only around 1ft x 1ft and a few air leaks i think.

flogger11 · Post by **flogger11** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 5:20 am

selondontiburon wrote:I listen to trance/dance/rap etc. But i THINK my box is def too small, its only around 1ft x 1ft and a few air leaks i think.

You probably will have to go back to a ported box to be happy, honestly.

selondontiburon · Post by **selondontiburon** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 5:26 am

Ok ill go get a bigger ported box, But is this going to make my system at the moment sound from like 500rms to around 1500rms HOW IT SHOULD?!

flogger11 · Post by **flogger11** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 5:30 am

I am thinking so...

selondontiburon · Post by **selondontiburon** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 5:48 am

Serious? A box will make THAT much difference?!

flogger11 · Post by **flogger11** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 5:55 am

IMO and experience, yes. any other opinions out there?