PG titanium Elite 1200watts rms

selondontiburon · Post by **selondontiburon** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 5:57 am

Im not , not trusting your judment, im just amazed and stunned!

selondontiburon · Post by **selondontiburon** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 5:57 am

So what ported box size should i get?! Would a ported deep Tube work?

Post by **AVICJR** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 6:11 am

selondontiburon wrote:So what ported box size should i get?! Would a ported deep Tube work?

Go with the specs from the manual I linked you. The Ti Elite sub takes tons and tons of power to really get them going. You should still double check your wiring and connections it should sound louder than "500 watts" to the sub. If your box now is 1.0 cu. ft. then that is PG's specs for a SPL setup.

Also: do a search for topics on this forum regarding this particular sub written by "brenzbmr@sb". He has a lot of useful info on the sub.

selondontiburon · Post by **selondontiburon** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 6:21 am

So i need 2 get a ported box more like 2-3cubic ft

Post by **stipud** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 6:51 am

Wow... you connected all three terminals together? You just sent 1500 watts (~77 volts) into 12 volt LEDs. They are probably fried now. I believe the LED terminal is on the bottom, while the two voicecoil terminals are on the top (someone correct me if I'm wrong, I can't find any useful info in the manuals). Just leave the LEDs disconnected, and make sure you wire + to +, - to -... then connect + to the + output of your amp, and - to -. Simple.

A box will make a HUGE difference in output. If it's using thin particleboard, leaks, and is the wrong size and shape... you will lose TONS of volume. First and foremost, the Elite is a monster woofer, so it requires a monster box. If you're considering using 3/4" MDF, you at least have to double up the faceplate, and add lots of interior bracing. Personally I would recommend you use 1" MDF and lots of braces. That woofer will perforate anything less. I would recommend you stick to the PG guideline for a "Musical" box. 2.75 cubic feet, with a 4" diameter port, 15" long.

Now, when you've got your monster box set up, you can worry about your monster amp. 4 gauge is the bare minimum to run that thing. You also have to make sure you have a 4 gauge ground with all paint scratched off underneath it. Up at the battery, you also need to add a 4 gauge ground between your battery and the frame, otherwise the current of your entire system is limited to that tiny wire that comes off your - terminal. I also strongly recommend you upgrade your alternator to battery wire to at least 4 gauge as well.

selondontiburon · Post by **selondontiburon** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 11:38 am

Ok so i got that exact box size being made this weekend! so thats 1 thing, i have also got 0g wiring kit on its way, i understand my Amp needs a constant 14v input OR it will go into protect, which it DOES at the moment! So im getting a new battery and a powercap!?!?

KHPower · Post by **KHPower** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:03 pm

I really hope all that works out for you , the box,batt and cap but if your going to go through all that you might as well consider upgrading your alternator.

I woud bet running 1500 rms in a sealed 1 cf box would still produce more output then what you are saying. I have ran 1600 rms in a 1 cf enclosure and got sick output.

Take some pictures of how your sub is wired and post them

Post by **AVICJR** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:11 pm

KHPower wrote:I woud bet running 1500 rms in a sealed 1 cf box would still produce more output then what you are saying. I have ran 1600 rms in a 1 cf enclosure and got sick output.

Unfortunately the Ti Elite sub is extremely finicky. I have a Ti1200.1 on mine and it's still laughing at me.

seandiguer · Post by **seandiguer** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:22 pm

Your sub should do this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AUH9clG ... re=related

selondontiburon · Post by **selondontiburon** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:37 pm

Yeah ive seen that, that must be shaking hes head off right?!

Well my box should be complete 2moro! which overall is 2.8 cubic ft! with a letterbox vent 1 inch thick mdf! i have a much better battery i got already 2night, which has 2 seperate terminals for bass etc etc, i havnt tryed to hook it up yet tho to see if the Protect light stops coming on!

KHPower · Post by **KHPower** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:46 pm

AVICJR wrote:
KHPower wrote:I woud bet running 1500 rms in a sealed 1 cf box would still produce more output then what you are saying. I have ran 1600 rms in a 1 cf enclosure and got sick output.
Unfortunately the Ti Elite sub is extremely finicky. I have a Ti1200.1 on mine and it's still laughing at me.

One of these days I am going to have to get one of em to play around with.

Do you think you could over power that beast, lets say 3000 rms? and get away with it

selondontiburon · Post by **selondontiburon** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:52 pm

A quick question also, My amp IS good enough for this right?!

KHPower · Post by **KHPower** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:55 pm

selondontiburon wrote:A quick question also, My amp IS good enough for this right?!

Yes , most definitely . Some amps just need the right juice to provide the right juice.

selondontiburon · Post by **selondontiburon** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 3:16 pm

Can i use a multi meter on the amp just at the point when the protection cuts in? Im guessing if it goes below 11-10v then its most def the problem right?! Also i dont know if this means much BUT when i did have a cap on my old 700watts amp the digital reading on the cap (when the bass hit hard said 10.2-10.8.. So im guessing as i now have a JUICY amp i would guess and say it must be dropping more like 9.5- 10, which is DEF TOO LOW!!!

brenzbmr@sb · Post by **brenzbmr@sb** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:47 pm

well there is a problem, u have air leaks,

look trash that box.
second if u go sealed build it air tight.

go ported at teh recc musical enclosure.

you have a nuff power so dont worry about that, its your box thats killing u.

i would sit u in my car with my one elite and 800 watts and make u wet...

Post by **Wakeup** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:33 pm

I had my TI Elite built with 1.5" MDF, braces and it was sealed...and it sounded good. Would have pounded harder if I had it ported. But the box alone w/out the sub weighed around 80 pounds!!!! W/out the SUB!!!!

http://s200.photobucket.com/albums/aa63 ... ite%20sub/

selondontiburon · Post by **selondontiburon** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 1:51 am

My box being made is near to 3 cubic feet, am i going TOO big? Or will that be perfect and kick ass?!

capitolj80 · Post by **capitolj80** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 3:06 am

true...you can never underestimate the importance of an optimal enclosure...and electrical supply

selondontiburon · Post by **selondontiburon** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 3:37 am

So after i change my battery and MAYBE alt and 0awg wire and then new huge box, i should be looking a Big Bass!? Will i get window flex at all?!

KHPower · Post by **KHPower** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:14 am

You may get a little windows flex but why dont you set your goals lower for the moment and First try the lighter trick(light a lighter and see if the bass knoicks out the flame)

selondontiburon · Post by **selondontiburon** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:42 am

Ok when its finally up and running good ill try that.

Also my car batt now is 600a, should i get a 800-900a?! cud this be the problem why my amp goes into protect???

KHPower · Post by **KHPower** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:57 am

Well most of the power comes from your alternator but adding a better battery would help you out greatly. There are some great articles in the How to section of this website that will guide you on your journey.

The power of PG be with you.....

flogger11 · Post by **flogger11** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 6:44 am

selondontiburon wrote:My box being made is near to 3 cubic feet, am i going TOO big? Or will that be perfect and kick ass?!

U really should build your box to pg spec for best performence...

selondontiburon · Post by **selondontiburon** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 8:38 am

My battery and alt is FINE! had them both checked out. When i finally get this box in (to pg specs) will it then sound like it should?! My gain is on 3/4 the way and now the amp goes into protect at around volume-25 on my headunit!

Post by **AVICJR** » Sat Aug 02, 2008 9:17 am

KHPower wrote:One of these days I am going to have to get one of em to play around with. Do you think you could over power that beast, lets say 3000 rms? and get away with it

I'm very sure it will take it. One of the car audio magazines wrote an article on the sub and I believe they were putting somewhere around 2400 watts to it, two amps, one per VC. I was contemplating buying an Exile X2400.1 to run mine.